Road Rage

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by RogerThat72, Mar 2, 2014.

  1. "Hang - Man"

    "Hang - Man" Heavy Load Member

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    #### - some things just shouldn't be changed. I guess when they get phased out, and the kids in cars are pulling the make believe air horn cord the newer drivers will be looking at them at them like "why are these kids pumping their fist at me".:biggrin_2556:
     
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  3. gpsman

    gpsman Road Train Member

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    Well, you're wrong. Where 2 road paths intersect constitutes an intersection. By your logic traffic backed up on an interstate can refuse to yield to traffic on a ramp.
     
  4. gpsman

    gpsman Road Train Member

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    That's a "manual" of good ideas, not "traffic code". Traffic code never specifies who has right-of-way, only who must yield it, for a reason. The guy squeezing in to your already insufficient following distance? You must yield. The guy running the red light w/o stopping before turning? You must yield. The pedestrian steps into the roadway? You must yield.

    It's the unstated premise of "superior position". If the merging vehicle is ahead and has yielded to traffic, the drivers behind are "approaching" and so must yield.
     
  5. "Hang - Man"

    "Hang - Man" Heavy Load Member

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    gpsman no offense but it seems like you are off the mark.
    ramps with "yield signs" to Limited access hwys mean ramp traffic can proceed when it is safe to do so --def not interstate hwy traffic has to yield oncoming ramp traffic --defeats the whole purpose !
    What rule your quoting seems to be meant for another type of intersection.
    Dont get me wrong if i am going down the interstate and you shoot off a ramp -and my front end hits the rear of your car --i would be at fault legally -- but not logically.
     
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  6. rockee

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    Sorry gpsman.....you can say me and others are wrong......when in fact we are right. Like someone asked, when was the last time you saw a sign on the freeway that said flowing traffic must yield to merging traffic? When is the last time you saw a yield sign on the freeway/interstate? Where did you get that information from? I bet if you dug a little further in there they might address freeway/interstate driving and on ramps as opposed to what you posted....which if you read it carefully, is talking about intersections like four way stops. There is also a thing called "Rules of the Road" which I believe pertains to common sense. Granted, if you see someone merging and they are going to run into you, it's your responsibility to try to avoid the accident but with your thinking it seems...........the interstate traffic should stop to let on merging traffic, which is not the way it goes.
     
  7. tinytim

    tinytim Road Train Member

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    I'm not sure why you highlighted the part you did but I suggest you focus more on having yielded as prescribed in subdivision (a)

    yield the right-of-way to any vehicles which have entered the intersection, or which are approaching on the intersecting highway close enough to constitute an immediate hazard, and shall continue to yield the right-of-way to those vehicles until he or she can proceed with reasonable safety.
     
  8. gpsman

    gpsman Road Train Member

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    I can't help that you and others cannot comprehend what you and others read.

    Lordy. 4-way stops are not controlled by yield signs. "...which are approaching on the intersecting highway".

    Sure it is. Traffic backed up on a limited access highway with an average velocity of 0.5 mph cannot refuse to yield to traffic on a ramp. That would back up traffic on the connecting arterial and beyond.
     
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  9. gpsman

    gpsman Road Train Member

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    Sigh. "b) A driver having yielded as prescribed in subdivision (a) may proceed to enter the intersection, and the drivers of all other approaching vehicles shall yield the right-of-way to the vehicle entering or crossing the intersection."

    If they're not close enough to constitute an immediate hazard why would they have to yield in the first place...? You seem to remain confused by continuing to falsely believe that ROW is inviolable when it obviously is not.
     
  10. tinytim

    tinytim Road Train Member

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    Sorry gpsman, either you're not making your point very well or you're completely wrong.

    I'm guessing it's the former.

    Keep safe out there.
     
  11. rockee

    rockee Road Train Member

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    Welp...............all I can say is.....you smoke what you smoke and I will stick to the quality stuff.

    Does this look familiar from Tims post #62?

    Enter the freeway at or near the speed of traffic. (Remember that the maximum speed allowed is 65 mph on most freeways.) Do not stop before merging into freeway traffic, unless it is absolutely necessary. Freeway traffic has the right-of-way.
    http://apps.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/mer...mergingpassing
     
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