i cheat on my logs all day long, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. not big deal to me. and i don't feel like i need to find another job.
i cheat, becuase it makes the gooberment happy.
Cheating on logs
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by dogtrucker, Dec 6, 2013.
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I'd be happy as a clam to run 100% legal on e-logs if I was actually paid for all the work I did, as we rightfully should be anyway.
Pre/Post Trip - 30 to 60 minutes a day (I'd actually do a 30 min pre trip and 15 min post; not checking air lines, tread, tire pressure, fluids, etc for a truck that is going to stay parked... brakes are the main thing there)
Reefer/Tire Check - 5 - 10 minutes per stop
(Un)Loading - 30-60 mins (more time for driver (un)load) unless it's a drop & hook, 15 mins for those
Fueling - 5-15 minutes
Weigh stations - 5 - 60+ minutes depending on whether you're showing permits, getting inspected, etc
Urine Analysis - 30 - 60 minutes (clock starts from the time the left door opens until the paperwork is signed)
Breakdowns - all bets are off... clocking time for inspecting, setting out hazard triangles, dealing w/ tow truck/mechanics, etc
Cabbies get paid by the mile, with metered time for stops... sad that we don't. It'd remove a lot of incentive to cheat on logs if on-duty time meant "paid time".Last edited: Mar 8, 2014
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cheating? driving when i am rested and sleeping when i am tired is cheating? or common sense?
telling a grown man that he has to sleep 10hrs a day is cheating, using your authority to control other people is cheating, having barney be more concerned over a book than the person is cheating
as the first guy said, those who blindly follow laws JUST because they are laws have lost a bit of testosterone (in my book)
if you MUST drive 1000 miles a day to make ends meet, you are killing yourself
but if you are driving 168hrs a week, at your leisure, rested and safe with your loads on time, who cares about someone else's definition of rest
i bet you those who write the laws dont sleep 10hrs a daygokiddogo, snowblind, Lowa3468 and 1 other person Thank this. -
The driver should not be paid for SLC loading/unloading time because he/she is not responsible for verification. -
PreTrip-15 minutes
PostTrip-15 minutes
Fuel-15 minutes
Load-30 minutes until you get it unloaded then it turns into 15
Unload-30 minutes until you get it off your trailer then back it up to 15
Never log anything over 15 minutes unless you have to. I most of the time log everything at 62MPH unless it's a speed limit of 70 then I log it at 65. -
in a DEF truck. fuel takes 30 minutes.
flagging 15 minutes load/unload. i don't think dot would smile with that statement. most loads take longer then 30. -
For unloading or loading I just put 15 minutes which represents checking in/backing it in .. the rest of the time, at most places, I am legitimately in the sleeper anyway, so that's what I put it as ... -
Driving 168 hours a week 'at me leisure' is an oxymoron and bad math. There are only 168 hours in a week. Unless you meant the 8 day DOT week.......which still does not work out. -
I can and do Fuel the Truck/DEF/Reefer in less than 15 minutes.
I almost never put more than 6 gallons at a time in the DEF Tank.
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