My mystery air leak; could it be the leveling valve?

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  1. fredmalito4

    fredmalito4 Bobtail Member

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    Howdy, folks!

    After hooking up to a loaded trailer I hear a very obvious air leak, and I cannot convince the truck to get over 80 psi. My governor starts going bananas, and is popping off about every 10 seconds. Once I start driving down the road the PSI will come up, and after a while, the leak seems to seal itself, and pressure builds up as it should.

    This problem seems to be more prevalent when it is below 50°. The sound appears to be coming from underneath my fifth wheel, where my suspension leveling valve is, and sounds like the leveling valve purging air. However, not really willing to ruin yet another workshirt by putting fifth wheel grease all over it, I can't reach my hand in there to feel around the valve.

    So my question is this; can a leveling valve go bad in this manner, causing massive air leaks, and yet still seem to fix itself? The valve is cheap, thankfully, and once I get home perhaps I could see if that is truly the problem, but curiosity is killing me.

    Anyone who's experienced a situation like this please chime in!
     
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  3. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    I had one do the same thing. Just started purging air in the middle of the night while driving down the highway. Air pressure would quickly drop down then the compressor would pump it back up to 120psi. Within a couple of minutes. I had a spare and changed it out. That was 3 years ago. And now here all of a sudden within the last few weeks it's started leaking out that purge again. My truck has no air leaks, or had none, would hold pressure parked for a month but not anymore. Shut it down and walk back there you can hear it coming out the level valve. Within half hour I'm down to 60psi. It seems to stop there. I noticed I could use my hand to put ever so slight upwards pressure from underneath it and it stops leaking out air. I noticed the bushings in the leveling rod that actuate it have some slop in them. I wonder if those bushings need to be tighter and replaced or do you just replace the rod? I'm going to try adjusting it to see if I can eliminate it. Failing that I'll probably just replace the level valve. It's a bendix made in Mexico that I've replaced twice in 5 years already. The first one looked original. Anyways I'm hoping someone who knows see's your thread and can answer some questions.
     
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  4. Flightline

    Flightline Road Train Member

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    I seem to have to replace my leveling valve almost every spring. (Not yet this year). And I get these leveling valves at Peterbilt.

    And mine are not in the main road spray.

    Apparently, cheap chinness valves.
     
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  5. rebeloutlaw66

    rebeloutlaw66 Light Load Member

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    My leveling valve is at the rear of my tractor but there is a small valve under my 5th wheel that was leaking and one day it just starting leaking really bad so I took it off and tore it apart and there was a diaphram that had a hole in it, naturally I didn't have anything to fix it with except duct tape so I made one and it's worked fine and that was at least 5 years ago!
     
  6. fredmalito4

    fredmalito4 Bobtail Member

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    Flightline, every year huh? I was at least pleasently surprised that the OEM part is only $106, but I'll wager it is from China.

    Rebeloutlaw, you made a diaphragm from duct tape? You redneck, you! :biggrin_25525:
     
  7. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    There are air regulators in different locations. I buy a universal leveling valve for $60.00 & keep a spare. I had a air leak under 5th wheel one time, there is a big regulator & a real small one. the small one leaked. just make sure you replace the device that IS where the leak is. it is frustrating to me, that any part on my truck that is original would last 15 years, but to replace any part & put on new usually lasts no more than 2 years.
     
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  8. fredmalito4

    fredmalito4 Bobtail Member

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    Rollin Coal, that's exactly what mine does. I guess I'll replace it and see if I can rebuild mine; perhaps I can keep it as a backup. Mine was replaced by the previous owner last year. Cheap junk, eh?

    As to the rod, mine is a piece of allthread, but not a common thread pitch. End pieces are probably available seperatly and are cheap plastic. A little slop probably keeps pieces from binding and snapping, too much likely makes ride height adjustment problematic.
     
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  9. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    I don't have any problems with ride height so the rod is probably fine. Just sounds like a case of they don't make them like they used to with the level valve.
     
  10. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    My level valve is a haldex not bendix.
     
  11. mtoo

    mtoo Road Train Member

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    A leak like this can be in the air bag itself. As the air leaks out, the suspension goes down, now the rubber on the bag is pinched stopping the leak. As the suspension builds air the leak is exposed again. Disconnect the linkage and put excess air into the bags, this exposes more of the rubber. Now spray the bags with soapy water.
     
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