Attention UShip Viewers wanting to haul 4-5 cars behind your 1-ton--- START HERE!!!!

Discussion in 'Car Hauler and Auto Carrier Trucking Forum' started by h2oskibumz, Mar 25, 2014.

  1. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    They need all of that at 10,001 lbs.
     
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  3. PioneerWagonDriver

    PioneerWagonDriver Bobtail Member

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    bad business to down the little guys. It just may be a small truck that serves as the first step into big business. A guy's gotta start somewhere, and it isn't everybody that jumps in big up front.

    Bout a year ago a semi took out someone we knew locally, she stopped at a light, he didn't. Turned out he'd lied on paper in the log book, had driven 20 hours without rest.

    Of course when it's time to scale up, trying to haul too much with the small truck ain't the way to do it obviously. I think 3's enough for a one ton.
     
  4. sdaniel

    sdaniel Road Train Member

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    cnn , msnbc.
     
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  5. cnsper

    cnsper Road Train Member

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    Full driver or half driver who cares but the bigger point remains that his load launched up a ramp. In other words, those cars should have NEVER come loose from that trailer period. I think that if they really took the time to investigate the matter, they would find that there was insufficient securement force. It's not really about hauling three cars on this truck but more about securing the load.

    I have seen flatbeds on their side with the load still secured to the trailer. If they can do it with the weights they carry, cars are a simple thing to secure. The problem is that most of these guys will never have a problem but the chances greatly increase for damage when using the improper/cheap securement instead of the dreaded over securement.

    I would be willing to bet that his securement was damaged. I am just assuming that he was using wheel straps.
     
  6. LBZ

    LBZ Road Train Member

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    Nobody is downing the little guy. This forum in its entirety helps the little guy. This specific forum helps the little guy. Is there any other industry that even does this?

    That said, if someone is knowingly trying to seek confirmation to their plan that it is OK to load 4/5/6/7 cars on a one ton, then yeah, they are going to get an ear full.
    If someone is getting their info from a tv show that has zero interest in how the industry operates & only seeks to profit from their on air advertisement?
    If someone wants to run without cdl/dot/med card/IFTA where it applies/proper insurance/ignore laws on logging their day job so they can be a weekend warrior etc.
    Then yeah, once again the members here will speak up as they are paying good money to remain operating a legal business & remain so long term.

    Thinkin some people over look the fact of using legal equipment vs questionable & somehow equate that to bragging rights or keeping the little guy down when that is not the case what so ever.
    Nobody is buying a stinger on an ego trip & if the dually/wedge set up were truly the cost effective method perceived by some, then the big companies would be rolling in those.

    Sorry for the loss of your acquaintance, not sure how that specifically ties into this, but hate hearing about accidents where life is lost.
     
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  7. SLANT6

    SLANT6 Road Train Member

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    Properly strapped / chained vehicles DO NOT come off the Truck period. I have seen a high rail Bankhead / stinger setup and also a Cottrell flattop quickloader on their side and did not lose a vehicle. Also had a Tri Level railcar with Ford Escorts out of Hermosillo, MX that UPRR put on it's side, the cars stayed put and all were good to ship after full inspection.
     
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  8. SHO-TYME

    SHO-TYME Road Train Member

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    I had a dually/ wedge pass me today with 2 basket straps on the front and nothing on the rear, hope he doesn't have to slam on his brakes. What I saw later was even scarier, a dually passed me with a gooseneck flatbed behind it with a skid loader and a small backhoe on it, two chains on the skid loader and NOTHING on the backhoe.
     
  9. Jokingypsy

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    I think I really want to save some money hauling cars. If I put a two car trailer behind my used toyota Prius with 300,000 miles on it, put over sized tires on it and cut the floorboards out so I can drag my feet to supplement the cars braking, I should be ok, right? I will not mess around with securing the cars either, I will be using two clotheslines as opposed to one to secure the cars on the trailer, that way if I get pulled into the coop the police see I'm trying to be double safe. Is there anything else I should be considering? Could I pull oversized sheds or possibly oil well supplies with this rig?

    Adam
     
  10. crb

    crb Road Train Member

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    Pickup must have slammed the flatbed to launch that car into the KW
     
  11. Mr&MrsPete

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    This is purely a securment issue. Most car haulers only use two or three wheel straps on vehicles. There are guys that even run around with one. I know I have been guilty of myself and any seasoned car hauler is guilty too. Most straps are rated for thre or four thousand pounds, which is good for going down the road. However in a collision, that 4,000 lb vehicle now triples its weight. If you have only two 3,000 lb straps on a car that now has 12,000 lbs of force, well you get the picture. This is why DOT and Auto Makers will tell you they want four straps on every vehicle. I prefer chains myself. But, since auto makers are starting to do away with chain tie-downs because nobody actually trains anyone to be a car hauler anymore, we have wheel straps to dummy down the industry. This accident is the result of laziness and/or stupidity. Four straps on that front car and it would have gone no where.
     
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