Keep Ex Wife Out and Child Support Low?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by sbryant82585, Apr 23, 2014.

  1. MidwestResident

    MidwestResident Road Train Member

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    Dryver really does have a point.
     
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  3. JPenn

    JPenn Road Train Member

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    Boy, this is a loaded topic. Here is my opinion, worth what you paid for it, yadda yadda.

    It is not illegal, nor is it "not supporting your kids", to want very badly NOT to support a delinquent ex who somehow retained custody of the child(ren), and to explore and any all avenues for doing so.

    The system, and current jurisprudence, in many places, is very heavily rigged in favor of the mother, with no credence given to whether or not she is a fit parent. Many times support is calculated off gross income, which places an undue burden on small business owners with high receivables/high overhead situations, as quite often the courts do not (whether it's out of ignorance or spite, the net result is the same) correctly allow for overhead costs or understand the gross vs. net relationship.

    This inherent bias toward the mother, while possibly having a foundation in fact many years ago, is no longer a viable model for doing what everyone SAYS is the object...taking the best care of the children possible. In my situation, as in many, many others, the mother is NOT the better parent, the mother does NOT provide anything at all for the children or regards them as a meal ticket to more government handouts for herself, we've all heard the stories or experienced this (and by we I mean divorced dads who are trying our damndest to do what's right by our kids). It's openly stated in many courts that the child support is not necessarily required to be spent on the children, and I take very strong exception to that stance. If the EX wants spousal support, there's a place for that...CHILD support should be for the health and well-being or direct care of the child, not to support the mother's addictions, whims, or wardrobe.

    I do not quite have a horse in this race, since I not only have primary custody of my son with my ex (by rights she should be paying me support, but I want nothing from her), but until a few months ago I also had physical custody of her twin daughters (not mine, biologically) while she was absentee parent for the better part of 3 years. I provide everything for my son except face time with his mother.
     
  4. amiller

    amiller Medium Load Member

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    How are you going to become an owner operator if you're struggling with your financial obligations as a company driver?

     
  5. double yellow

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    My cousin, a highway patrol officer with long, variable hours, was not awarded custody in her divorce. Instead they choose her ex-husband who has a stable 9-5 job and nearby grand parents.

    The pay is based on gross because so many deadbeats play games with loopholes to spite their ex to the detriment of their children. If you, as a small business owner, show documentation of margins you can get a fair percentage of gross. Many professional poker players, for instance, win millions each year. They also lose millions. If they show a 3-year history of having a 5% ROI, they'll get an equitable judgement. If they show up with no documentation, they could well owe more than they actually earn.
     
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  6. saddleup

    saddleup Light Load Member

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    I feel your pain, for 19 years i paid my ex allot of money, she had 1 child and I had 1 of the kids, i got no credit for having our daughter when it came to child support, and she lived in Gov. housing and playing the system, drawed a SSi check on our son that i didn't get to see for 13 years because she keeped moving around in 3 states hiding out in GOV. system. But yet i had to keep paying support.

    I again feel your pain she can get off her lazy back side and get a job also. Child support is to help care for the kids, not so the ex can party off the money.
     
  7. Stuka

    Stuka Light Load Member

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    Giving money to your ex-wife does necessarily not equal providing for your kids.

    Good luck, man, but you can probably expect to pay her plenty once you become successful.
     
  8. sbryant82585

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    Thats probably the best thing you've said during this entire thread. I'll tell you.

    THE WHOLE STORY:
    Ill try to give you the short version.

    In 2011 my wife at the time (ex wife now) accepted a job at a prison that was located 2 hours away. I didn't want her to work there but she really wanted to so I supported her decision. After a couple of months of her driving 2 hours to work and 2 hours back I suggested that we move closer because I didn't think it was a good thing for her to be driving that far. Late 2011 I quit my class B driving job and we moved about 30 minutes away from her job which was really in the middle of nowhere. Everything was great until I realized that no one wanted to hire me without a year or two of experience and I really didn't want to work at Mc Donalds. After my unemployment ran out I called Werner and they had be on a bus by Monday and a check in my pocket by Friday.

    I stood by my wife's side while she pursued her career so I figured she'd do the same thing. I WAS WRONG. I explained that my OTR stint was temporary and that it would help me gain the experience I needed to find a well paying job doing what I loved. 2 weeks into my training with Werner she told me that SHE WANTED TO SEE OTHER PEOPLE. Yeah. I was in Amarillo when she told me that. I tried to reassure her that OTR was temporary but she wasn't having it. I'd be gone for 3-4 weeks at a time and I'd have 4 days off when I got back. Trust me, I would've loved to be home with her but I felt that I needed to get some Class A experience. Finally after three months on the road I came back 2 days before Christmas and she handed the divorce papers. Not only did she hand me the divorce papers but she proceeded to tell me to get out because I no longer lived there. I called the police and they suggested that I leave so I did.

    I had a divorce case and custody battle hanging over my head so I had to put my training on pause to deal with it. Thankfully my father was able to help me with the money to get an attorney. My ex wife kept telling me that I was going to have to pay her child support and spousal support but when we went to court they told her that SHE HAD TO PAY ME $1400 a month. Everything that she was trying to do to me had just backfired. She was making over 8K a month and I was technically unemployed. I never wanted anything from her so after two months of her refusing to pay I finished my training and landed a local job. NO, I didn't try to get on welfare, I FINISHED TRAINING AND GOT A ####### JOB. I was luck because the job was in the oil field and they desperately needed drivers so they over looked my lack of experience. I thought I was doing the right thing. 2 weeks later she moved my kids 2 hours away to her mothers house. AGAINST THE COURT ORDER. I told the judge and they did nothing!!!

    A few months later (August 2013) my ex wife lost her 100K+ job at the prison because they found out she was writing love letters to an inmate and had smuggled in a cell phone. Now I was the one ordered to pay her child support. She immediately got herself on welfare because she knew they'd garnish my wages. After she got welfare she got unemployment benefits. Then she got food stamps, medical, and applied for financial aid. In January 2014 she purchased a new car. When I told the judge that she was lying about her income and that she had just recently purchased a new car the judge said that IT DIDNT MATTER IF SHE BOUGHT A NEW CAR OR NOT. As far as the court was concerned she was unemployed. WHAT THE ####!? How does a person with "no income" purchase a new car? Does the Chevy dealership have a welfare program? Every time I see her she has on a new outfit Ive never seen before. Meanwhile she gives me my children in ###### up clothing. I know they have decent clothes but she always hands them over in the ####tiest clothing.

    THE CONCLUSION:
    I feel that I did the right thing by finishing my training and getting a job but the court doesn't reward that behavior. They reward lazy people who refuse to help themselves. I never wanted a divorce but apparently she did. Were we the perfect couple? Obviously not but I was willing to try to work it out. I even agreed to go to counseling but she was done. She was obviously unhappy but is that really a good reason to keep a father away from his children? I don't think so but the court does. IF I COULD SEE MY CHILDREN EVERYDAY, I WOULD. Unfortunately, if I show up when its not my time to she will call the police to tell them that I am violating the court order. Its ###### up but this is my reality.

    You can take the term "deadbeat" and apply it to every man that has ever walked out on you. You obviously didn't know the whole story so I have taken the time to give you some more pieces to the puzzle so that you can see the bigger picture. I wont talk too much #### about you because you didn't know.
     
  9. poppapump1332

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    She was probably messing around on you before you took that otr job she just used that as an excuse.
     
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  10. skellr

    skellr Road Train Member

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    This would be a while lot simpler if the ex wasn't involved. Good luck.

    Take the ex out of the equation and it's a no brainier, he isn't asking what you think he is.
     
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  11. dannythetrucker

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    A person receiving child support should be required to provide reciepts if the payor has doubts about money spent for the kids.

    I hate hearing people badmouth their ex's though. You did marry this person ya know. Every time you say how terrible she is it's just like calling yourself stupid or at least admitting you screwed up one of the most important decisions of your life.

    I mean, who would marry such an awful woman ?
     
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