Is it just me or it is pretty common for employers to expect you to work in the "gray" area in terms of HOS and on your logs in order to work you longer than they probably should? I'm hearing more and more about this issue and I'm a little concerned- anyone have the same experience with any of their employers- past or present?
Reasonable Expectations?
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by elizabethraider, Jun 11, 2014.
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It happens a lot more than you hear about but they are putting your CDL license and CSA scores at risk. Though the company may receive small fines if the DOT bothers to investigate, it is always the driver that breaks the rules that suffers the most. If you have an accident while in violation of your log book it IS YOUR FAULT, it doesn't matter about the circumstances of the accident, YOU should'nt have been there at that time. If a dispatcher or DM asks you to break the law report them to upper management and the safety dept, If that goes nowhere then quit and find a good company.
It's you license.
It's your livelyhood.
It's your decision.
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define grey areas.is spending the night at the shipper or receiver so i dont burn my hrs on duty waiting to get loaded or unloaded a grey area?theres so many ways you can cheat even on elogs,the key is self control,know your limits.that being said i will never go out of my way for any employer for just a thank you or 40cpm.
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i wonder what happens when they make MORE rules to hamper our ability to earn a living?
i guess at that time, what we live by today would be called "outlaw behavior"
the HOS rules are for the birds
however, i refuse to drive tired, so when i am tired, ii stop and rest, whether it is 2hrs or 12hrs into my run70s_driver, pattyj, gokiddogo and 1 other person Thank this. -
More companies then not the log,safety and the CEO is incahoots with the very ones that want you to run beyond your means.Only YOU THE DRIVER knows if you're too tired to run even if you have hrs left.No matter how mad your dispatcher or his boss gets,don't let them intimidate you indo doing what you feel is unsafe at that time. A lot of these trk crashes you hear about,drivers aren't the only ones guilty of running illegal or tired,you can bet their dispatcher is behind it but unfortunately the drivers get penalized.Drivers do their dispatchers favors and in reality dispatchers could care less about the driver.Does'nt matter if you try and lay a guilt trip on your dispatcher or any dept at the company like I was too tired and afraid i'd get into an accident,they don't wanna hear excuses and don't care about your CDL as long as u have hrs is all most focus on.But if you don't wanna drive even if you have 7 hrs left because you're too tired then stick to your guns and tell your dispatcher you're not going to drive and be firm about it and respectful.
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For pattyj, Off topic here but I thought I'd ask, did you go to iowa central cc by any chance? I'm heading out there next week and was interested in what you had to say about there program? thanks, riply
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Just always keep in mind, YOU are responsible for operating that truck safely, YOU will be the one held Accountable for anything that happens on your watch and , unfortunately, like the Walmart Driver Saturday found out, it will be YOUR reputation and career that is on the line. I hear now they have charged him with HOS violations in that he drove more hours than he was legally allowed to in the immediate 24 hours before the accident. You wouldn't think a Walmart driver would be charged with that but you never know? Maybe a Conspiracy to shift the blame from Walmart to the driver? Or maybe the Driver was actually running against his logbook? You never know?
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Either way the company is responsible for the drivers actions. DOT fines are nothing compared to settling or worse yet losing lawsuits.
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Hi riply yes I did go to ICCC.Excellent school.Ill talk more about it in pm.
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True, Lawsuits are costly.
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