Schneider Orientation Fontana 1 July 2014, Military Apprenticeship, Colorado

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by warhippy, Jun 30, 2014.

  1. Running Bear

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    Thank you for your service and also for the great information you are providing on this thread.
     
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  3. TracyN

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    Warhippy, great thread. My husband and I started our truck driving career back in 2007 with Schneider as team drivers. I agree with everything you have said. It is NOT for everyone, and Schneider gets a lot of crap talked about them, but they were great for us. Very professional and as you said, they want to see you succeed, not fail. So they will do all that they can to help you out.

    Here are a few things that we learned that may help. Take it for what it is worth. :)

    1. Sleeping while someone else is driving is very hard to get used to. At first, every time my husband would hit the jake brake, I would bolt out of a dead sleep and think we were going to crash! What helped me is using ear plugs. The soft cushy kind. At first they were uncomfortable because they stick out of your ears. Cut them down to make them shorter, and you won't feel them. Also, get a twin size memory foam mattress, (less than $100 at Walmart) and put it on the bottom bunk. It will be MUCH more comfortable and you won't "roll" as much in corners, since you sink down into it. We just bought the 4" memory foam topper. It really helped with sleeping. Also, since you can not use any drugs to help you sleep (Nyquil, Sleep Aide, etc), if you aren't sleeping good, try some Melatonin. It is natural.

    2. You have already figured out what we figured out pretty quickly. We always trip planned at 50 mph and it worked out perfect. Gave us time to shower, stop for fuel and bathroom stops and we still had plenty of time to make it to the receiver, but not TOO much time that we were waiting around a lot.

    3. Yes, finding an empty could be a challenge with Schneider, and you never know what shape it would be in when you get it. You already learned to let them know ASAP so they could get on finding another one if need be. Sometimes you will have to drive quite a ways to find an empty. I didn't like that, but it is what it is.

    4. Parking. I don't know what type of "shift" you and your son are working. We tried several and here is what we found works best for us. We each drove a 12 hour shift. Because of stopping for the bathroom, eating, fueling, etc, we never drove over our 11 hours. We finally ended up driving from 3-3. So I would drive 3:00 am to 3:00 pm and he would drive 3:00 pm to 3:00 am. We found that it was easier to find a parking spot in the afternoon so we would take our showers when I parked at 3:00 pm. I can't remember ever having a problem finding a spot at that time of the day, unless we were back east where there are not a lot of truck stops. When we would switch at 3:00 am, we would just pull into the fuel aisle, fuel up and I would run in and brush my teeth, grab some coffee and we would head out. Around 3:00 in the morning, the fuel aisle are usually empty, so we wouldn't be holding anyone up. That schedule worked best for us.

    5. Traffic! My husband doesn't have a lot of patience for 4 wheelers and traffic. That is why he drove the afternoon and night shift. Any major cities coming up and I would make sure I got through them before we switched. That way he could just drive and not have to deal with traffic. I think I am just a little more calm with dealing with rush hours!

    6. Snow and chains. I know you haven't had to deal with this yet, but here is our experience. Schneider will work with you if the roads are bad. If you feel it is "unsafe" to drive, just let them know. You are out there, they are not. We never once had anyone tell us we "had" to keep going. We did have a rule between us though that if the roads were bad, we would only drive on snow/ice during the day so that we could have good visibility. We would throw chains if need be, but only during the day. We parked it at night. Also, if you do throw chains and they know, they are more likely to keep you up in the snow for the winter, because others will refuse to put chains on. We would chain, and because of that, we would spend the winter going back and forth from Wisconsin to Seattle. Also, since your truck is automatic, make sure to put it in manual when you are in the snow!

    That is all I can think of at the moment. Schneider was a good company for us to start out with and we enjoyed working for them. Also, the breakfast burritos in Fontana at their OC are amazing! I LOVE their hot sauce! :) If you have any questions, I am more than happy to see if I can answer them.
     
  4. warhippy

    warhippy Medium Load Member

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    Thanks TracyN....I'm beginning to get this sleep thing down pat but it was definitely challenging at first. I've been running solo the last two days since my sons wife decided she wanted to have her kid while we were on the road. Flew my son out of Asheville, NC and made the delivery. Drove to Charlotte to pick up a relay headed to Massachusetts but the trailer had issues (cracked frame) and after cross loading they couldn't get the paperwork straight. Next morning had a second relay to Lincoln NE for 0700 tomorrow morning. It was considered a "hot load" and there was some concern I could make it safely 1100 miles in two days. Not an issue as I have arrived 12 hours early. Have my reassignment for tomorrow picking up 50 miles from here and delivering in Laredo. Thats another 1000 miles. Not sure whats going on but I have driven 3880 miles in 8 days and that includes the day the trailer was messed up and I only ended up with 37 miles.

    What I have learned....I average 52 mph and my son averages 58 because he drives nights and doesn't deal with shippers. I can do 475 miles a day in 9 hours comfortably. He does 530 but if we need to push we can it just means driving more than 9 hours.

    I stop when I feel like it. I actually get more miles by taking a break every two hours instead of killing myself by driving straight through. While driving solo I start around 4 in the morning so by 0630 I've already gone 165 miles. Not a bad way to start and when I finish at 2:30 I have no issue finding a spot at the truck stop.

    We average 9 mph with the Cascadia Evo with an automatic transmission and 30000 pounds in the trailer. Just hit 63 and put it on cruise and it'll get 9 mph all day long.

    We are actually planning what to do when we hit the year mark. Do we go IC? Dedicated? Do we both solo? I'm retired military so I have a steady income and no debt. He's a smart kid that saves money and also has no debt. We have many options to explore in the next 10 months. My only complaint about the truck is with it being governed. I don't have to go 70 mph but would like to safely pass without the alarms going off. Everything else about the truck we like to include the on guard system. We don't need an APU because the truck never stops long enough to need AC.

    I've been reading the threads about IC and can see the potential with picking your own loads. We both love the West to East 10/20/40 corridor. We can really crank some miles pretty easily that way and you avoid too many mountains. I also like Michigan to Laredo. We've had that route a couple times. Not crazy about OKC, Dallas,Austin,SanAntonio but if you time it right it isn't too difficult.

    Thanks again for your words of wisdom. Still new at this but still liking it! Also...my son has been test driving all the burgers at the different OC's and so far he likes Fontana's best. West Memphis was close but not quite as good as Fontans.
     
  5. TracyN

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    I think Fontana has the best food out of all of the OC's and West Memphis comes in second. :) After our year mark, we went over to Prime as Lease Operators. Our goal was to become O/O's, but we didn't want to jump in head first without knowing what we were doing. Going the lease operator route really helped us learn what was needed to actually OWN a truck and run it. A lot of people will say the lease operator programs aren't worth it. Everyone has an opinion on that. For us, it was worth it. We learned some valuable information and made some dang good money. I feel that the money to be made is going to be teaming though. You can do well as a solo, but there is more money in teaming. You have 10 months to think about it and get used to the sleeping while the truck is moving thing. Also, there are some REALLY good paying Hazmat loads that Prime has. I am sure other companies have them also, but I can only speak from our personal experience.

    Speaking about the APU. When the time comes, I would definitely recommend getting one. Yes, as a team you are usually running. But there will be times that you will need a restart at about the same time. It is nice to have that APU and not have to run the truck. Also, what if you break down on the side of the road in AZ in the summer? It will be HOT! But that APU will keep you cool. Same thing with the winter, it will keep you warm. There will also be places that will not let you idle, so you have to consider that.
     
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  6. Dcwteamtrucking

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    Are u at orientation for schneider? That's where we are pre qualified for and they never said anything about a physical agility test
     
  7. warhippy

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    I went through Orientation in July. The physical agility is nothing to worry yourself about. It is a series of activities that simulate duties performed in trucking such as getting in and out of the truck and squatting to check to make sure the kingpin is locked in. They have you step on and off a box for a minute than measure your heart rate. Key to this, if your out of shape, is to take your time. There is nothing that says you have to rush it. After a minute they measure your heart rate and if it's too high (above 150) thank you retest at a later date.

    The prescreen can be found at the following website about halfway down the page. It really is nothing to worry about. Your not going to be running two miles and doing pushups and sit-ups or nothing crazy. This is basic stuff to make sure you can perform basic duties.

    http://schneiderjobs.com/company-drivers/orientation-and-safety/recent-graduate-orientation
     
  8. warhippy

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    Dates 3 August to 14 August.....Crazy 11 days to say the least. Don't have an accurate number of miles traveled but paychecks were $825 and $1250. The first was as team and the second had two runs as a team (5300 miles) and one as a solo (1100 miles). Next weeks check is going to be for 2400 miles as a solo.

    Taking my TAH so I can see the new grand baby and give the wife some loving'. Things I learned this last two weeks. Slow down and pace yourself.

    When we started we ran real hard racing from location to location. Would get about 550 miles a day by running ten hours and then would switch with my teammate. We discussed the inconsistency in what time your driving and started taking longer breaks and more frequent breaks during our drive time. It seems that you end up getting more miles just by pacing yourself.

    Second thing I learned is you can shower everyday if you'd like and your running the miles. Most truck stops offer free showers if you get more than 50 gallons of fuel. Well that's easy enough to do so I will sometimes get fuel when I'm at half a tank just so I can get the shower credit. Works great and I don't feel nasty, funky!

    Third thing I learned....truck stops are dirty. The parking lots wreak of urine and basically it's pretty disgusting. There are some nice ones but the parking lots are normally nasty.

    Fourth thing...I would start my morning as a solo at 4 a.m. no matter where I was. Several reasons for this but #1 was that by 3 p.m. I'm done with my day and not having an issue finding parking at the truck stops. This also meant I was normally first in line for deliveries if I positioned myself correctly.

    Fifth...I was real concerned the truck would be too hot to sleep in unless I was idling. My trick is to pull the curtain and run the AC on high in the Sleeper Berth and when I stopped it was nice and cold in the Sleeper Berth. This works for about three hours and then you have to do it again. Slept last night in Post Texas near Lubbock....86 degrees at 8 p.m. and I was able to get a good rest and not sweat to death while doing so.

    Well that's all for now. Spending Friday through tuesday at the house. I'll post more later and hope this is helpful for others.
     
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  9. Dcwteamtrucking

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    What else can u tell me about schneider orientation? Do u become an employee after ur first day is over? That's what we were told. Do they provide ur meals while at training facility? How much extra money should we take to get by on? What time does orientation start in the morning?
     
  10. warhippy

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    1st Question....first day is paperwork, agility test and them getting you into the system. Your hire day is day 2 and you start receiving the pay then. I think it's like 80 a day. Anyhow....you won'y see your first paycheck until 12 days after you start and that one is only $320...after that they are $560 a week while you're in orientation. Breakfast and lunch are provided the first and third week. The second week is with your Training Engineer on the road so it's fend for yourself basically. The food is good at the Operating Center and the hotel so plan to eat light for dinner and you'll come out ahead in the end. There are restaurants near the hotel and plenty of choices for food. The closest store is a healthy mile to mile and a half walk from the hotel. You might find a classmate that brought a car and they can take you there. I can't tell you how much you need to bring because I didn't really track how much I spent. I would say $100 a week should be more than sufficient.

    Teaming is the way to go! All of our loads have been drop and hook so quick in and quick out. Mileage is dependent on the team but you can comfortably run 1100 a day. During the last three weeks I was able to stop and see my daughter (Waynesville, Missouri), son (Warren Michigan) and had dinner with my Brother and his entire family (San Angelo TX). If you know people that live near an interstate you can see them often no matter where the live in the country.

    Feel free to ask if you have anymore questions and good luck! Orientation was excellent and the people there care about your success.
     
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  11. Dcwteamtrucking

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    We r getting hired as a team so getting trained as a team. What type of driving schedule do teams usually run? While on road training did u get to stop n use bathroom regularly n eat n shower? If u go somewhere hot do they run the air? How many hours a day do u drive? Can u wear shorts? How much home time do u get after ur three weeks of training is over? Did u take a greyhound there or drive ur self? What time does orientation start each day?
     
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