I am a Missouri resident. I bought a Freightliner FLD112 tractor that is in Ohio. I'm planning to pick it up on Saturday, May 10.
The truck will mainly be used with a dump trailer to haul some fill dirt and such to a couple of my pieces of property. It will never be used in commerce. Only personal use, not for hire, not involved with business, and so on. I have already cleared with Missouri, Kentucky, and Ohio that I am legal to drive the truck home without a CDL because I will not be involved with commerce.
My problem is figuring out how to register the truck and what permits I will need to drive the truck back home from Ohio legally. I have called commercial vehicle enforcement officers, the DMV, and others and I still can't get a straight answer as to whether or not I will need a temporary fuel and/or trip permit from each state I'm traveling through. I also have no idea how the truck should be registered for the trip home.
Does anybody here know whether or not I will need a temporary trip and/or fuel permit? And how should it be registered? Thanks.
Help With Licensing and Permits
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by rmgt, May 3, 2008.
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License- I believe the tractor is rated over 26000lbs. You will need a CDL at least a B. You can never put a trailer on there without a CDL A. Commercial / Commerce or not.
The registration- here in CT you would be OK with just a Commercial plate. No fuel tax, no FMCSR regs if for personal use.
Are your properties just properties or do you rent them, use them for business? If so then you are now Commercial. If it is Farm, then you are OK, no commercial -
The land is non business related. Just used for hunting, fishing, and such. I am not required to have a CDL, I've already talked to a DOT officer from each state I'm going through and they have all told me that no CDL is required.
One of the officers told me that the best way to explain to other officers what I'm doing is tell them that I "just want to drive a big truck around." Believe it or not, apparently there are people who own and drive trucks around for entertainment like you or I might own a speedboat or ATV.
Just trying to figure out how to register the truck and decide whether or not I need temporary trip and fuel permits. Thanks for the help. -
Aye so long has your bob tailing all you need is to be 21+ with a valid C. That's why you see jobs from time to time about moving trucks no CLD required.
You might check into your states laws about "farm use" vehicles. Some places have odd laws for when the vehicle stays with in a certain range of the property and only hauls certain things. Like the area I live in for a long time if a farm truck stayed with in 100 mi of the farm. Was moving from one portion of the farm to another A.K.A property owned by the same farm/farmer. And was moving farm equipment, seed, ect the driver didn't need to have a CDLA or log book. I think they could also move produce to packing sheds. Needless to say this was highly abused and done away with. -
I am in a simular situation. The only way to get around the CDL rule is to be farm exempt at least here in Wyoming. I am sure you will need some form of operating authority such as state authority registered as a private carrier. I registered my DOT Number as interstate and as a pivate carrier.
My truck came from Idaho Falls. I drove it back on a CDL Permit with a licensed rider with me. I also called the POE for the state of Idaho about needing a trip permit. She said I had 48 hour to get the truck out of state, and I needed a bill of sale showing the time bought.
If you are not registering it farm exempt, do your research and have your answers in writing. There are hugh fines to pay if you don't have your stuff together. You don't need an IFTA if you are just operating in state, and if you go out of state you can buy it at the POE. You must register interstate on you DOT number if you ever plan on going out of your state. -
Any vehicle in excess of 26k gvw needs a CDL and log book to cross state lines farm or not. When I bought mine in virginia last year I just went to the VA. license bureau and go a temporary trip permit, no trailer and only for the one trip back to Ohio, I think it cost $5 or something close to that, they said it was good no mater what state. It was just a piece of paper to stick in the window. When you get it back just register it farm and get your home state fuel tax stuff
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Hrm.. could you please point me to that in the FMCSR? I can't find it.
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I'd like to know that one also. We always drove under the 100 mile rule and took many loads from Las Vegas to AZ and never ran a log. That could be a company rule to track the miles driven out of state. I've read the FMCSR front and back and I can't find it anywhere also.
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so why then does everybody out there need a cdl and a log book. A friend of mine last year was in Iowa looking at a tractor with his p/u and gn trailer total gvw more than 26k, he got pulled over by the state highway patrol and was asked to see his log book, dot #, saftey equip (triangles ect.) he said he didn't have any for his little truck. Officer started writing tickets. This was a not for hire farm truck/trailer, outside state lines. The only thing they couldn't get him for was his CDL. If farm plates let you have free roam of the country everybody would have them http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/spanish/pdfs/tm_hos.ppt#18 here is where it tells you about the rule
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