Do you all believe there are CDL holders that do not read or speak English in America

When I was an IT guy, for years there were scams/systems where you could pay people to get certifications for you. You'd give them ALL your info, they would make a VERY legit ID, all the correct numbers, scan able etc) with your info and THEIR face. Then they'd go take the proctored tests as you and YOU would then have a verifiable certification. The same scam could be done very easily with a CDL. You pass the written and some guy with your permit and his face would take the road test. You'd go back to the DMV with your stamped pass form and off you go with your license your driving can't back up! At least with tech certifications you can fake your way through them. Not easy to hide the fact you can't get a truck into a dock. LOL!

 

I think its all DMV fault because they have the test exam and study books in Spanish / Creol / Chinese and bla bla bla language ect http://www.dol.wa.gov/driverslicense/guide.html and after that why they cannot read or speak English

 

The law says they must be able to speak, read and write English. If they can not they have a CDL in violation of the law and who ever gave it to them should be prosecuted.

 

There was a post on here somewhere a few months ago about Colorado or Wyoming putting a driver OOS because he couldn't communicate with the guys in the POE. I know some of the interactions I've witnessed in the Cheyenne POE involved little more than pointing and holding up paper on the part of the Chicago area Volvo driver. SMH

 

[QUOTE="semi" retired;4231944]Chicago intermodal drivers.[/QUOTE]

port rats in any major city. Jersey, Chicago, Long Beach, Seattle, etc. Same guys. Same junker trucks held together with duct tape and bailing wire!

 

Hi Brandopdx, yeah, most of those guys just do crosstown stuff, and those trucks would never pass an inspection. Every once in a while, they set up portables, or used to, and all those guys get shut down.

 

Of course whoever obtained and issued the CDL in violation of the law should be prosecuted. And once in a very great while, you see it happen. It hasn't been to many years ago that a DMV employee got busted for selling driver's licenses. I guess she sort of had a wholesale operation going. I don't remember which state is was now, but it had to be California, Arizona, Colorado or Utah. Whatever it was, it happened to be my state of residence at the time. . .

Unfortunately, these scams can go on for years before anyone tumbles to them. But it sure seems like it would be obvious in the case of a CDL holder that can't communicate with DOT cops. You would think there would be some follow up action on it. I suppose it is the old, "That's not my job," attitude. . .

 

Just playing devils advocate here, but if you think about it:

We're constantly complaining about rates being pushed down below .30 cpm, how much do you think we could charge to take someone's road test for them? $100? $500? $150 for a written test?

How many times in a given month do you think you could pull it off before someone got wise?
Or if anyone at a given DMV gave a darn?

I wouldn't be surprised if someone in say Chicago, Newark, or San Diego hasn't got a scam like this lined up already.

 

There is a service called Language Line. Law Enforcement agencies can call in, give their agency ID and request a translator in just about any language. Once the interpretor is on the line, they ask them the question and then hand the phone to the person and Language Line asks what they need to know. They answer and then hand the phone back to the officer and Language Line tells them what was said. It is a pain in rear and time consuming, especially in an emergency. At the agency I used to work for, we had to use it quite a bit for Korean and Mandarin.

 

yes. i believe there are a lot of non english speaking cdl holders out here.