6th times the charm?
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by THeGAME, Nov 11, 2014.
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Yup.
Hold on to your boots..
$5488 for 6mo. Progressive Ins.
Best I could do with a low amount and no one had payment options for first time driver.
Yeah, Im all set except for passing the test. Business license, customer contract signed, DOT# (MC not needed for intrastate), med card. First wee wee test done and passed. Fuel expenses for the first month in the bank.
Wish I could just have a tester ride with me for the 9 to 14 del/picks Ill be doing a day at some of these docs, lol..Last edited: Nov 11, 2014
Chinatown Thanks this. -
Good luck. Sorry about the other times, I had luck on my side apparently on 10-16-14.
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You sure about that "summer/winter" popout pressure theory, bigfoot? I've never ever heard that before.
The emergency popout (red knob) should popout when air pressure drops to the 20-45 psi range, thus closing the tractor protection valve to prevent tractor air loss.
The tractor service line (yellow knob) should popout at slightly less pressure (20-40 psi), and if the popout valves are working correctly, the red emergency (trailer) will/should popout *before* the yellow tractor valve, to prevent a "front brake only" (jackknife prone) situation during air loss.
The temp, winter or summer, should have no effect on air pressure, especially for popout activation.
45 PSI in winter is the same as 45 PSI in summer...
As for me, if both valves popout within their respective range, and the emergency valve pops out first, popout activation is good.
If my tractor valve pops out first... it's going to the shop. -
Hi ya kw
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Congrats Davo!
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In reality, Bigfoot is correct.
Different climates and even positions on the globe will require different considerations for your vehicle. Logically, you cant assume your combo will perform the same on the equator as it will running ice roads in Alaska. Do you know how and why you have to dump your air cans? One thing is certain though. After researching online, watching all the videos and reading tutorials, your State will require certain qualifications. If you dont know what they want, you will not pass the test.
This being said, getting your CDL is no different than any other test. You have to give them the answers they want to hear, even if they arent necessarily correct. -
Please explain this "correctness" in more specific detail, as I do not agree.
We are not talking about general vehicle performance differences between hot & cold climates, such as fuel/air ratios for optimum combustion. We are talking about what the original topic issue was,, which is the low air pressure pop-out valves, their spec'd range of proper operation/activation, and their function.
Not sure why you brought it up, but I know "how and why" I have to dump my "air cans", but that is reserved for strictly manual popout valve operation (which is at a dead stop 99.9% of the time). The main safety function of the popout valve design is *not* for manual operation,, as we are talking about its proper functioning (as mainly designed) for its automatic activation of both spring brakes and actuation of the tractor protection valve, in rapid air loss situations.
All of which has absolutely zero to do, in physics or function, with any temperature variation in hot/cold weather. And it has zero to do with "how and why you have to dump your air cans". But I'm curious to know why you are even asking me that question, and how you feel that question relates to the issue, and what your own "how & why" answer is? -
In fairness, it sounds like a couple of the disqualifiers were nothing more than nit-picky, "I've got the power to fail you and I'm gonna" incidents. Good luck.
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KW,
Each state and possibly Providence, has it own requirements for their tests. I can assume they are (loosely) based on the area.
The original topic is passing the skill test based on your areas requirements. They differ, thats a fact.
Due to location, its possible the bold text verbage required to be spoke during the pre trip is different due to different locations. While some States my ask for 20 - 40 psi. others will require 20-45, or not require it at all.
As far are general vehicle performance goes, all vehicles will perform differently in specific environments. There for there will be different pre trip requirements for said areas. Physics and function change due to multiple reasons. Say regardless of what your trucks specs are, the pressure will be different in Death Valley than Denver. So the readings in one will not reflect correctly to the other, and its possible you will have to have your equipment adjusted. That being said, say you are an owner op in Denver and you sell your truck in Death Valley. Although nothing is wrong with it, it will show a problem because its been adjusted for Denver. So you are disqualified for equipment failure when everything is working properly. The air temperature is different. You get different reading because of it. Same thing. Nothing wrong, disqualified.
Some States require you to dump your air cans in your pre trip due to the possibility that they will cause braking problems and false readings due to ice build up. Other States dont even require you to mention them. Per your CDL tests, you will have different answers from State to State, and different descriptions due to locations. So its not the real answer, it the one they want to hear to pass you.
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