Fmcsa in 2015

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by crankit2152, Nov 23, 2014.

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  1. OriginalBigfoot

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    I really don't see much of a difference between paper and elgos except losing the ability to fudge your average speed. Of course I have never used one before... but it reminds me of the Mickey Mouse clocks we used to have back in the 70s.
     
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  3. rodknocker

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    So everyone don't want recorders so they can work more than 14 hours a day. Makes me feel better about working 8 hours although I like to keep it around 7
     
  4. Joetro

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    Because the 14 hour clock doesn't stop while you're unloading. If it takes the lumper 6 hours to get you unloaded, you lose that time. It's gone.
     
  5. crankit2152

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    My intent on the original post was not to debate whether someone likes or dislikes elogs. Simply to tell people what coming down the pipe next year. I'm actually more concerned about a speed limiter law........you think the drive from Memphis to Little Rock is busy now ,wait till all the trucks are going the same speed try to pass each other. I'm out of Ontario and the truck im in is set at 65.......it creates pistoff 4 wheelers and can cause dangerous situations, I've seen it.
    Anyway , Elogs are here to stay......I still think there an ankle bracelet for truckers and have nothing to do with safety.
     
  6. Gunner75

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    Unless you happened to wake up at the consignee and you start your clock after they unload you. Just show a decent amount of time for and unload
     
  7. Joetro

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    Sure, because that happens regularly in a JIT industry.
     
  8. Stump

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    E-Logs only track truck movement. Waiting times at shippers and receivers can't be tracked. This is the reason they will not help a whole lot. The biggest problem has always been hold ups at shippers and receivers.

    It will be a game changer either way. The industry will overcome it, but as I stated before the cost of living will go thru the roof, and show all the true problems with the Hours of Service. Then there will be a flood of dozens and dozens of more regulations to try and fix it.
     
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    Its uneducated responses like this one that a once proud and great industry has been reduced to. Replaceing safe, well trained, experience drivers with trucking mill uneducated steering wheel holders, with no experience drivers, trained by horrible, unsafe, large carriers, with trainers that have less then 6 months of driving experience, should make the roads a much better, and safer place.
     
  10. 12 ga

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    Exactly and we all know they worked sooooo great to.
     
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  11. Cowpie1

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    We have all had that happen. In the extremely rare occasions it happens to me, I just make sure the time is all sleeper berth. I take another couple of hours and I have a 8 hr part of a split done. That'll stop the 14. Even if I went to off duty on the e-log when this all started, I just edit the log to change it to sleeper berth and make a comment that I selected wrong status. Simple, eh? Granted, we are dealing with a non perfect world. But it is not all that bad. If these type of things are frequent for you, then you need to reevaluate who you are hauling for. Unless they pay for all that time to sit around, I am not going to even consider it.

    No matter what, we can't avoid every bit of this nonsense, be it on paper or e-logs. But we can sure limit the amount of times that it happens. Deal with the things you can control and try to make it work. It is just wasted energy worrying about the things you can't control.

    And e-logs, speed limiters, etc will not cause a replacement of safe, experienced drivers with incompetents. Those that are already safe and experienced have it made. They are in demand and always will be, and they will get the top pay. They still can set the standard for what a driver should be. The only ones these regulations will most likely eliminate is the ones who perceive they are safe and experienced. In other words, a legend in their own mind. I have little problem with many of the newer drivers. Some things they do are a little stupid, but they are learning. it's those that think they know all there is to trucking that give me the most grief out here with their driving trucks like they are their sports car and playing some sort of "the road is mine" game. Following 10 feet off my trailer running down a two lane road at night. Coming back into my lane with only 10-20 feet between their trailer and my hood, even when passing on a 6 lane freeway. I see far more "experienced", "seasoned" drivers pulling this crap than I do see newbies. There is a good saying from days gone by... take the board out of your own eye before you try to remove the splinter from the other guy's eye.
     
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