HOS question

Discussion in 'Car Hauler and Auto Carrier Trucking Forum' started by wleggett02, Jan 18, 2015.

  1. LBZ

    LBZ Road Train Member

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    Even if you find some niche around the HOS, commercial insurance is not a part time thing. What I mean is you will need to run full time to even begin to compensate for the insurance among all the other fixed costs.

    Personally with the income/benefits of a f/t job, would look for most anything that is far less regulated than trucking. Additionally just read some success story thing of "go getters" & NONE of them were involved in trucking.

    If it is the cars you like, check with the local detail/air brush/dealer prep businesses.
     
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  3. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    The 100 miles is 100 nautical miles, about 115 statute miles, and is a radius around your originating terminal, not how many miles you can drive.


    It has nothing to do with state lines although the interstate versus intrastate issue does have to do with state lines.
     
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  4. mnmover

    mnmover Road Train Member

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    The 100 mile radius means you can operate short distances without using a form logbook, you still have to keep track of your time spent working, and if you go over a 12 hour day, then a logbook is necessary.
     
  5. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    It does not work period, You need to learn the HOS rules. weight is not the issue. Your jobs interfere with each other.

    Time on ball jobs count against drivers. does not matter if your delivering pizza, newspapers or a fireman. If they are combined with being a driver for hire then you have a 70 hour clock, and a 10/11/14 rules that come into play.

    You can work all the hours you desire, you just can not drive for hire. Limits 70 in 8 days, 11 in 14 hours, period fireman are not special. If you exceed them and get caught you can change your name to susie.
     
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  6. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    All hours you work and are compensated for count against your total allowed hours in the truck, be it 60 hr in 7 days or 70 hr in 8 days. You cannot work 60 hrs delivering pizza than do 20 more in the truck. I'm not saying that a lot of people don't do it anyway, but if you get in an bad accident you could get into very deep stuff.
     
  7. SLANT6

    SLANT6 Road Train Member

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    I love when someone asks a question, then people take the time to answer, they don't like the answer, and they want to argue about it. Then do it! Nobody's stopping you. Geez.
     
  8. wleggett02

    wleggett02 Bobtail Member

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    Ok here is what I have found .......I asked the question and the answers I got back were dumb and did not make any sense to me next time YOU take more time before you answer and make sure you know what you are talking about. Thank you to the one that did try and help
     

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  9. Lark

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    Look guy I'm not even a trucker but it didn't take too long looking into this business to get a decent understand of the HOS regulations. The answers you got were not dumb they were correct. They didn't make any sense to you because you haven't looked into the regulatory aspect of this deal. You do understand your response sounds a bit like a play ground hissy fit.
     
  10. Dorsey

    Dorsey Medium Load Member

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    The votes are in and it's unanimous.................your the idiot. Good day!
     
  11. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    The replies you got regarding having to log hours at the station because you were getting paid are not correct. The definitions for "on-duty" or "driving" do not include "being paid" (just ask numerous drivers ;) ). There are some situations as drivers where they might be paid but not have to log it as on-duty as well. This is very common in the oilfield for drivers that are on a lease but not working.

    You are in a unique situation as compared to most second-job drivers in that you could be paid, but resting while doing so. The other replies regarding hours of service are correct though, so, as it mentions in Question 29, if you are performing any work at the fire-hall, or out on a call, then that time needs to be recorded as "on-duty". Also note that if you are not crossing state lines or otherwise engaging in interstate commerce then the FMCSA rules will not apply, but the rules of your home state will and they may be different than the federal rules.

    Or, move to Canada, we don't engage in such oversight foolishness. :)

    Also, go to the FMCSA website and learn the rules for yourself. Unfortunately few drivers and even fewer posters have a good grasp of the rules in their entirety and what you are asking about falls outside the norm so most people are going to get it wrong.

    For the benefit of those that don't want to wrench their neck trying to read the picture:
     
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