Rookies MUST READ: The nightmare that was supposed to be a step up the career ladder

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  1. RetiredUSN

    RetiredUSN Medium Load Member

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    You may not be getting what you want to hear with all these responses, but if you sit back and think a while, you will see some logic from each and every response.

    Nobody owes you a job in this life. You have to go out and earn it. You do that by demonstrating competence with what ever trade you decide on.

    Werner was being pretty gracious to you by allowing you to keep operating. Another couple years would have wiped out 2 of the 3 incidents as far as preventable's go with some companies.

    You dumped Werner because some "head hunter" said.............C'mon over!

    Lesson: Head hunters are paid to fill seats on orientation day. You didn't learn that over your first year? If not....shame on you.

    Your attitude demonstrates all your mistakes as minor. Well............ you didn't have to cut the check on these, and failed to appreciate what it costs to keep a fleet running.

    The only positives that I can see about your situation is:

    1. Werner was lucky to see you leave.

    2. Knight was smart to sending you packing.
     
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  3. UKJ

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    OP I don't think you really can sue for this..well you can sue for anything, but probably won't win. But for future reference CYA like I said previously in the future.

    A company should hire FOR SURE before you drive 1 foot towards there direction though. There should a definite YES or NO before you even leave your house.
     
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  4. X-Country

    X-Country Medium Load Member

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    that I was involved in the accident. You have to send a letter to Werner Safety in Omaha.

    sure I accept responsibility and accountability for the first 2. I'm not disputing that.

    and everything was less than $2800.

    the hood I "allegedly" scratched was $1200 to have re-painted.

    the tow truck for the stuck tire was $650

    the fairing was estimated at $750 for repair. Was actually cheaper than that because they pulled a fairing off a truck that had been broadsided.


    There should be a difference between an incidental, a preventable and an accident.

    Yes there is something to contest. You're assuming Werner is correct in even assigning fault to me for the accident. Without video, there's no way to prove someone else didn't hit that truck prior to me arriving. There's no way to prove someone didn't hit that truck after I had come and gone. I'd know if I hit a friggin' truck. And if I had, I'd have reported it the minute it happened, not left a consignee's lot that has a plain as day visible surveillance system mounted on the outside of the building.

    I'm not contesting someone hit their truck...I'm contesting that it was me, because I KNOW IT WAS NOT.

    If the recruiter can run your background, he should also be running your MVR and DAC Report, and if he see's 3 preventables, he should be telling you, sorry, at this time you dont qualify. its that easy.

    I agree that's the message it sends, but had I KNOWN what I know now, I wouldn't have left Werner to begin with and I would still be there.


    Ummm. I am a SHE. not a he. And that has never been my attitude.

    no one said anything bout suing them for not hiring me. That's not the issue. The issue was the recruiter was negligent in his duties of ensuring that my Background Check, MVR, and DAC Report were to their standards before making me an offer. His negligence gave me a false impression that I was hireable. Not to mention I VERBALLY DISCUSSED my 3 preventables with him on the phone and he said oh they shouldn't be a problem. But I left one job, under the pretense that I had a job waiting for me, and I took it on good faith that the recruiter had done his part and pulled my Background Check and MVR and my DAC Report.

    It would be different if I went in and failed a drug test or a road test. Then that would be on me.


    and that's a practice that needs to STOP and it needs to change. If you can run a Background check before you agree to bring someone into orientation, there's no reason you can't run their MVR and DAC report too. saves everyone a lot of time and trouble for nothing.

    If you have a health issue or fail a drug test or a road test, then that's the driver's problem and it's on the driver not the company.

    This ain't pro sports. We don't sign "contracts". We're a paid by the mile or the load profession, unless you're specifically a contract driver and sign a contract.

    Again, no one said anything about suing anyone because they didn't hire me. Obviously you're slow in the head because you can't read what was written and interpret what you're reading properly.

    And once again, I am a SHE
     
  5. Joetro

    Joetro Road Train Member

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    I'm sensing a chip on someone's shoulder.
     
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    She might be hot.
     
  7. RetiredUSN

    RetiredUSN Medium Load Member

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    Hell.......... has no fury like a woman scorned.
     
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    I would expand on Lesson 3: Have another job and the keys in your hand.
     
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  9. X-Country

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    not disagreeing with you here, but I'd done this pivot/u-turn manuever too many times, and I know i didnt hit their truck. When you get out and look 3 times, and you see more than enough clearance space, there's no PHYSICAL POSSIBLE WAY my trailer hit the truck. There's just not. Any physicist could disprove that I was responsible for hitting that truck. The physics will not allow it.

    Anheuser Busch loads their trucks the same way every time. They have a picture description in their warehouses of how the trucks are supposed to be loaded, and the tandems are ALWAYS set the first 5-8 holes, so the tandems are always forward. I was on the dedicated route in St. Louis and I assisted for the Ft. Collins location in November and December due to a shortage of help. St. Louis loads theirs the same as Ft. Collins does every time.

    I had more than 70 consecutive times going on the scale with a load and already having my tandems properly set before I got on the scale, and never was further back than the 8th hole on a Werner trailer (which they go 250-300# per hole).



    yep, Vail Pass Summit back in November. It was snowing like a nasty broad too. If you rode with me, you'd see Im a very conservative, cautious driver. I am not an aggressive driver by any means. I had a couple more runs through the mountains with chains since that first one and it was snowing worse, and I did just fine. Just took it slow, but maintained a nice steady speed.





    Ok,..like, what part of "NOT KNOWING" before I made the decision to leave do you not understand? I had no idea that 3 preventables would keep me from getting a job at Knight. But I DISCUSSED/TALKED the 3 preventables with the recruiter on the darn phone! He should have told me right then and there. So he's either not doing his job, or he thought he could slip it by Safety. Had I KNOWN any of this would have happened, I'd still be over at Werner driving. I'd have saved myself the time.


    And I dont think anyone owes me anything. I've always worked for everything I ever wanted, and when I screw up I'm the first to admit it and be accountable for it and make corrections.

    But when other peoples actions cause me to go from making $47,000 a year to making $0 because they failed to give me accurate information or do their job, then they need to be held accountable for their actions as well.

    Had he simply ran my DAC and MVR, he would have seen the preventables, said you don't qualify, and I'd still have my job. AND THAT'S A COLD HARD FACT, no matter how any of you look at it and regardless of what ANY of you think.

    No, I left werner because I got an offer of employment making substantially more money than what I was making. That's something any reasonable person would do. Everyone wants to make more money, and advance themselves to something better.

    Werner is anything but "gracious" as you put it. Gracious...yeah, gracious as in slapping a chargeable preventable that I was NEVER even involved in on my DAC report, with no proof or evidence other than 2 pictures sent over via email. Sorry, but there are thousands of trucks and trailers with scratches on them and you can't definitively say that scratches match up just by looking at pictures on a computer monitor. Only way to determine if the scracthes match was if they took paint samples and did a paint analysis to confirm it was a match, and I guarantee this cheap dumpster fire that is Werner didn't do that.


    At worst i'm guilty of being naive and not being more proactive in my research before choosing to jump ship, but as I said in my initial post, hindsight is 20/20. You can't plan for something when you don't have the knowledge. But I have always been a person of integrity, accountability and taking responsibility for my actions.



    I'll at least talk to an attorney and find out.
     
  10. FLATBED

    FLATBED Road Train Member

    This ain't pro sports. We don't sign "contracts". We're a paid by the mile or the load profession, unless you're specifically a contract driver and sign a contract.:biggrin_2553: Yet same WHINEY ### attitude of the over paid athletes when things do not go their way , get over yourself you did not get HIRED by Knight for whatever reason they decided on regardless of what a RECRUITER might have promised you
     
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  11. Arkansas

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    Ok. Here's my question. Can you really make 65,000 at Knight ?
     
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