Glider Trucks in California.

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Miami Trucker, Apr 11, 2015.

  1. Cranky Yankee

    Cranky Yankee Cranky old ######

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    the money grab part is if you live and register the truck in CA you can drive a model b mack
    the dot doesnt check for compliance
    but they might if they get the superr coop done in Primm
     
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  3. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    There isn't any cut and dry information.

    The regulation says you need a dpf on engines manufactured after 1995, and to replace engines manufactured before 1994 with ones compliant with 2010 emissions standards (1994-1995 engines are allowed through December, at which point they too would have to be replaced with 2010+ models).

    The regulation was not enacted by a legislature, but by appointed bureaucrats and their legal justification is not completely sound -- so even though the regulation says retrofit or else -- that reg may not be legal.

    They are fighting it out in the courts and, as far as I know, CARB is not spending any effort to chase down individual owner operators who aren't in compliance with their wishes. They have gone after mid-size fleets (50+ trucks) and they have announced million dollar fines to scare people into compliance. I am not aware of any companies paying the supposed money, nor have any courts upheld the fines (again, to my knowledge).

    Me? I own a preemission truck and I'm not planning on retrofitting anything on it. If CARB prevails in court, I'll stop running California. As it is, I only run to and from home; spot rates in CA aren't that good most of the year anyway -- buying plane tickets would save me money in the long term...




    When I was younger I was interested in law enforcement and was an "explorer." As part of that program, we learned some basic police tactics and one that always stood out was what they call "commanding presence." You see, officers are trained specifically to "ask," in a manner which suggests you don't have an option, for things they cannot legally require you to do.

    E.G. (deep voice) "Would you step aside so I can search your car?" Not many people say no...

    My opinion is that CARB is employing that same tactic just hoping enough people don't resist and ask CARB for legal justification.
     
  4. SHO-TYME

    SHO-TYME Road Train Member

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    It would be cheaper to build the glider and NOT go to CA, problem solved.
     
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  5. reefer101

    reefer101 Medium Load Member

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    IMG_0281[1].jpg drove my old truck and reefer thru cali in februari and nobody checked me :biggrin_2559:
     
  6. icsheeple

    icsheeple Trailing the Herd

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    Nice, I didn't think about a novelty sticker. Looks legit from afar, and no counterfeit forgery charges.
     
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  7. sshewins

    sshewins Road Train Member

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    I love it. Where'd ya get it?
     
  8. icsheeple

    icsheeple Trailing the Herd

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  9. icsheeple

    icsheeple Trailing the Herd

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    I'm still saving up for this:

    image.jpg
     
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  10. sshewins

    sshewins Road Train Member

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    What? No graduate of the duck tape academy sticker?
     
  11. Boardhauler

    Boardhauler Road Train Member

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    The clean idle sticker only relates to whether the truck can idle legally for more than, I think, 5 minutes. Don't idle for extended periods & you don't need the sticker.
     
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