I had such great advice on my first thread so naturally I thought I would push my luck and ask for more... Valuable yet entirely free advice.
I'm about to do my road test at the drive test centre and although I'm not taking passing for granted I am beginning to look beyond the test to employment and frankly that's where I begin to lose a little confidence.
I guess my question can be best summed up as this ... Are recruiters and driver trainers aware of what they are getting? Lol
Don't get me wrong I'm reasonably confident in my ability to pass my test, but I guess going into my course I foolishly assumed that upon completion I would know what I needed to know to drive a truck. I didn't think I'd be an expert or anything but the more I learn and the more I research the more it occurs to me how little I actually know and worse than that some of what I've been taught is geared toward meeting the ministry standards not necessarily what is expected in the industry.
A few examples would be ... I've been taught to double clutch yet told most drivers don't use their clutch. Or for the sake of time the ministry doesn't want anything under the hood to be included in the pre trip so although we are taught it in the text book it wasn't actually put into practice ( which for me works better for learning than reading it over and over again) no matter how many times I read something it always sinks in better when I get to do.
Don't get me wrong I have learned an awful lot in a short period of time and I'm absolutely confident in my ability to learn more. I guess I'm just asking if the company's that hire newbies are as aware as I am that not only do I not know everything... I barely know anything... Even though I've already learned a lot.
I apologize for the long winded nature of this post and as always I welcome any and all thoughts on the subject.
Another almost rookie question please
Discussion in 'Canadian Truckers Forum' started by SpokedB, Jun 8, 2015.
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Most companies will know what to expect when hiring a new driver.. You will not know much other then the basics.. I don't think anyone knows a lot to be honest.. Some people know more then others that's just life.. The more you read and the more involved you are with this industry you will get more knowledge as time goes on... Once you find your part of this industry you will get to know more of it and next thing you know you go into something else and you learn more.. I used to do flatbed mostly (various loads oversized, stretched, legal etc..) I knew what I needed to know for what I was hauling.. Now I am in the waste industry, more to learn, new knowledge.. I have been at trucking for about 12-13 years which is a fair amount of time and I am always learning and I will continue to learn as I get more years, as I get older and if I go into other fields...
Anyhow what you learn in school is different then in the real world... You said about double clutching.. Most drivers that I know and work with do not use the clutch... If I used my clutch for every downshift and upshift in Toronto traffic (which I am stuck in all day) I wouldn't have a left knee... If you learn how to float gears great, if you can get it no big deal just use the clutch.. Just hope you don't see as much traffic as we get in Toronto...
Here is another thing you probably were shown in school (and had to do with ministry)... As per ministry rules your suppose to back up to trailer, check pin alignment, hook up the lines.. Then get back into truck pull spike, release tractor brakes then pin up... Real world is hook to pin, connect lines, roll dollies and go... (check pin is locked is always a good idea).. This ministry way as I know it was because when they came out with this hook up procedure trailers didn't have spring brakes parking brakes so if trailer was hooked without it the trailer could roll away..
Don't sweat it.... Even the 20+ year driving guys are learning new things everyday.. Heck we all have to be learning new things since industry and vehicles are changing..SpokedB Thanks this. -
Thank you. That makes me feel at least a little better lol. Like I said, I wasn't expecting to be an expert but I thought I'd know a bit more than I do and I certainly didn't expect to be shown things that were "incorrect" on purpose.
Here's the one that floors me, the ministry wants you to do your pre trip and your in cab air then do your drop and hook and then the road test. So basically, my instructor ( who presumably knows what he's doing) hooks the truck up at the school and brings it to the drive test centre. I do all my inspections based on his work. Then I ( who am being tested to see if I know what I'm doing) disconnect what my instructor did, hook everything back up and hit the road without anyone inspecting what the rookie did. Seems to be a little backwards to me. -
You're absolutely right btw about how we're shown to hook up.
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Don't stress about not knowing much. I got my CDL about a month ago and went OTR with a trainer the day after. It was VERY stressful learning how to move these big pigs around but after a couple of weeks of sheer madness and you thinking you're going to kill yourself and masses of people with your 80,000 LB weapon, you begin to settle in and drive. You're right. They only give you enough knowledge to pass your test. They don't show you anything about navigating through tiny lane construction zones, moving through cities like Jersey, New York, and Baltimore, or how to use the Qualcomm. It's a lot. And you're going to feel a lot of pressure. But push through it and learn. Once you feel confident, things get much better.
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Thanks and congratulations on getting your CDL. If you don't mind my asking, who did you get on with and how are you liking it thus far?VeganTrucker Thanks this.
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Henderson out of Caseyville IL. Love it. Headed back to the yard to get my truck now. Finished with training. Kind of a smaller company with around 400 drivers but we haul Prime freight. So there is a small company mentality with big company freight. Best of both worlds. So far everyone had been very professional and courteous with me.
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Awesome... Hope things continue to go well for you. And thanks again for the input.VeganTrucker Thanks this.
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Companies know exactly what they are getting in new drivers, Schools Teach drivers to pass the mto road test. Once your hired onto a company and paired with a trainer you will be taught the way it works in the industry. It will be a little stressful at first but after a few months you will be much better and have way more confidence. Don't feel bad if you make a mistake.Just learn from it. we all were new drivers at one point.
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Thank you ... It's a strange feeling ... I got 100% on all my written tests in class and at the ministry ( including class C) and yet I feel like I know nothing... Lol. But it's nice to hear that my future employers know that I know "nothing". Thanks again.
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