Do you qualify as an "automobile transporter?"

Discussion in 'Car Hauler and Auto Carrier Trucking Forum' started by keitht, Jun 10, 2015.

  1. truckon

    truckon Swamp Thing

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    Make sure you get all those guys running 53' wedges with front and rear flips. And then the cars hanging off the flips.
     
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  3. sxdime

    sxdime Medium Load Member

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    Well that sucks for the enclosed soft side 53' trailers that have the bubbles on the front and rear.
    Some of the states have realized that auto haulers are easy money with overhang etc. I know they have laws for a reason but some just make you scratch your head. Just paid a $100 ticket today for the front overhand being 4 feet. I know 3 is the law but I asked the officer "if that vehicle over my hood hits something I believe I would be at fault correct?"
     
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  4. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    I have long believed that Cottrell (and Sun Valley, etc etc) dropped the ball by not lobbying to get these rules clarified when they started really pushing out all the high-mounts.
     
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    Brian, I forgot to mention it was a Miller. The same thing happened to me in Washington State with those front shackles. The irony of it all is that they didn't care about the front overhang as long as the overall length of the truck and trailer was ok. I would think the manufacturer should have got that clarified before production. Also the Oregon boys got me for having the upper flip outs extended even though they weren't over length. I'm retired now, but I don't think I'd ever go back to Washington, even in a car as they are getting ready to charge everyone for all miles traveled, just like the big trucks.
     
  6. keitht

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    Brian: Unfortunately, I cannot say what state I work in because it would be interpreted as me speaking on behalf of that agency, which is not allowed in most Law Enforcement organizations. I work for the State Police.

    The Federal regs and interpretations can be found here, and these are the rules that the Feds are wanting states to enforce.

    http://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/Freight/publications/size_regs_final_rpt/index.htm

    My only reason for coming on here was to make people aware. I don't necessarily agree or disagree with the regs. It's not my place. I would prefer to spend more time enforcing violations that effect SAFETY. This kind of enforcement takes my time away from that. I would just like to get the word out so that there might be fewer violators that I'm forced to deal with. In a word - If your power unit is not designed to haul cargo, then you are probably not considered an auto hauler by federal definition and you do not get the overhang allowances.
     
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  7. KANSAS TRANSIT

    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

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    Yeah Keith I was afraid you were not going to disclose your state I find that unfortunate that a state agency would rather be reactive in collecting fines and penalties than being proactive and issueing a notification.
     
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    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

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    That lat post probably came across wrong Keith do not take it as a personal afront, What really irkes me about this is that I have a sneaky suspicsion that it is being politically pushed by the big union autohaulers because they are in fact losing market share to the indepedents.


    Plain and simple that law needs to be changed it is outdated, illogical, and self serving. jmho
     
  9. SLANT6

    SLANT6 Road Train Member

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    Stan,
    There are only 2 of those left. The NATA and its lobbying power does not even exist anymore.
     
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  10. SHO-TYME

    SHO-TYME Road Train Member

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    I wonder why I can't pull a 57 ft trailer, but can get a 53 ft and put 3 ft bubbles on the front and rear?
     
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    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

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    I know you are right Slant but in all my years if I have learned one thing it is this,


    An enforcement push such as this happens because of one of three things, either it is Politically motivated, Done for Safety concerns, OR it's Revenue driven.

    Keith already admitted it isn,t a safety concern ( and I agree with him) So I guess take your pick of the other two.
     
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