In training and unwilling to falsify logs to help my trainer make $. What to do?

This is a another really good point brought up here.

I'm just asking here:

Are you talking about logging hours in such a way that your true effort is not shown? Because the reason drivers do that is so that they conserve their logged hours so they can "make more money".

I agree that this is often a fallacy, but not always. But I am quite curious if I take your meaning correctly.

EDIT: This was supposed to quote mikee, #89

 

I'd fudge the logs as far as on duty time. After 2 months your going to be doing it on your own free will.

I never got to insane most of the time but it's just a fact as an otr driver if you logged every hour as it should be you wouldn't make to much money.

 

Well, my training was THE WORST! Seriously, if you have a trainer that does more than yell at you until you get it right, without giving a single clue as to how to do it right, you have a much better trainer than I did.

So good luck with that hope.

This industry is highly variable. I realized very early on that there almost NO statements that can be made that are universally, or even generally true. But then I found one:

IT SUCKS TO BE NEW!

EDIT: tried to quote RoadRacer #90

 

Do what you want but she's not asking you to run two logs or Wright out a new 7 day log. If it were me I'd go with it.

 

Heck if it me I'd ask her how to back up a log book, and how to run loose leaf, and ask how to run two logs.

You may never do it and I don't suggest that you do, but it's good to know how.

Just saying.

 

push her out the truck while its moving down the road.
say she jumped....
jk lololo...or am I....?

 

Right!

 

on my system when I pull up the log and can click on the change and I have a edit button then I can change it to any line I want 1,2,3 or 4..... the only one I can't change is when the system puts me on line 3 driving.....

in the case from the op I would just stop get out talk to the guard about were to drop and were to get my mt get the bol signed then drive to the truck stop for the night....

then I would go back to where the elog put me on line 4 and edit it for the drop and hook, 1 min later show per-trip the new trailer.... total time on line 4 10min then hit add and put in off duty, the system will have me driving when I leave till I get to the truck stop, then it will again auto change to line 4, I just go to that time and edit that to show post trip then add 2min later to off duty.... and it done..

I know your thinking it would auto change to driving (line 3) when I drove from the guard shack to do the drop and hook..... BUT the system after you stop for 5min (the time I was at the guard shack) it will not change back to line 3 if I only drive 9/10 of a mile.... if I need to drive more I just need to stop and sit again, but few shippers do you need to drive more than 9/10 of a mile

 

This is funny, I don't think I've ever turned in a legit logbook page. Well unless I was home and logged off duty for days.

Look OP, in my mind you will be on here in a few months complaining about the lack of money. If you don't want to falsify your logs then dont. I don't care, your bills aren't mine. Logging something on duty that could so easily be logged off duty takes away hours which takes away options. Why would you give yourself less options?

Look just about everyone at every job cheats the system a little. Why, because doing so either makes it easier or there is a financial incentive.

I loved the line about falsifying a federal document, that actually made me laugh at loud.

 

Yep and being a trainee, means nothing.

You have a cdl, be law you are totally responsible for your actions, you can't claim ignorance or being told to do something, so no matter what, you are in charge of the truck completely.

One reason why this entire bs about trainers is just that, bs. You are not being trained, you are just gaining road time under what is supposed to be a mentor, there is no shift in responsibility, you are legally licensed to drive the truck and legally obligated to follow the laws - period.

To the op, cover your butt, don't play games because the work you put into getting the cdl and on the road will be for nothing.

The reason I say this is if you get into an accident, those logs are legal proof you were negligent, and you risk your assets and having no trucking career. Even if your co-driver was the one who was driving, you are still on the hook.