Got an international 9400, steering is horrible

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  1. JD Transport

    JD Transport Light Load Member

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    bought this 2001 intl 9400 and overall I haven't spent much on it besides some new tires, a pm. Truck cost me 7 grand and runs nice, good mpg so far. My main complaint is the steering, it's rough at slow speeds, backing up, slow turns. The steering isn't nice and smooth and every bump in the road jolts the steering wheel to where you can feel it. Took it to the shop to get it fixed, they put a new drag link and ujoint on the steering shaft ($600). Seems like the steering you'd have on a go cart or somethin. Spoke with another intl 9400 owner and he says that's how his truck is too. I'm feeling like the shop didn't get to the bottom of this or is this just something I need to get used to?? Besides that, it is a rough riding truck but stays straight on the express way, no problems there, set the cruise and go
     
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  3. 77fib77

    77fib77 Road Train Member

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    Im sure this isn't it. Check the shock bracket welds to the front leaf springs. I had drove one where it broke and it would wander all over the road.

    For the ride, how old are the shocks on the truck? I bought a 9200i 2004 and replaced all the shocks helped a lot. I haven't done the cab shocks yet.
     
  4. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    My 9400's steering takes more effort at slow speeds than a Cascadia or Prostar, but it isn't "rough" unless you are turning the wheel when stationary (something you should avoid with any truck -- doing so tears up tires).

    I don't notice the steering wheel jerking when I hit bumps and my ride is pretty smooth with centramatics and recent shocks. But the steering is much more responsive than either a cascadia or prostar -- so I can sorta see "go kart." It can be a bit of a bear on rutted roads...
     
  5. RustyBolt

    RustyBolt Road Train Member

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    Jolts on bumps? Start with shocks like @77fib77 mentioned. Side to side shake at certain speeds? Generally an alignment issue or bad steer tire. Shake when braking? Bad tie rod ends. And these trucks aren't known for their turning radius. I've got a long 9200 and it takes 40 acres and then some to turn it around. Takes some time but you'll get used to it. @double yellow mention rutted roads. Yeah, those things will teach you to keep both hands on the wheel. lol
     
  6. KeithT1967

    KeithT1967 Road Train Member

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    Replaced the leaf spring bushings on my old 9400. Made a huge difference in the ride and steering. Then replaced the p/s pump. Felt like a new truck.
     
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  7. JD Transport

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    New shocks are getting done next weekend, i might try the lead spring bushings too. It's not leakin ps fluid but I'm suspicious of the pump regardless. I've driven some hoopty trucks in the past and this one is driving me nuts just cause of the steering. Rutted roads are the gauntlet for this truck lol. I feel like the shop dropped the ball and I'm pissed that they consider this an improvement/fix because it's not, on top of it all, they did a pm on the truck, dumping out my schaefers oil that only had 900 miles on it. Truck won't be goin back there ever again
     
  8. 9900 IH

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    2017 9900 IH EAGLE bought it new im on my 14 th set of steering tires 6 trips to 2 different allighnment shops replaced suspension bushings u bolts steering box power steering pump and on and on it goes it eats steering tires like i like candy bars lol it dives all over the place without warning have to have both hands on the wheel and slow down when meeting traffic the dealer says they havent ever heard of a problem like mine go figure lol . 880kl the worst piece of garbage i have ever owned in my life
     
  9. AModelCat

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    If you want help, maybe post some info. The alignment reports, tire pics etc.
     
  10. AModelCat

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    Sounds to me like not enough caster, maybe toe set wrong. Hell even the rear axle alignment could be off and pushing the front end sideways a bit.
     
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  11. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

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    The spring bushings need to be tight and lubed.
    Alignment [all axle alignment if the steer tires are wearing funny] need to be good and the shocks need to be in good shape.
    One poster mentioned centramatic balancers; a lot of guys have has success with them for excess shakes and vibration.

    The entire suspension is always involved so rear suspension torque arns and bushings, etc. need to be tight and well lubed too.

    Had a company unit where the driver complained about always fighting the wheel, 96K on a set of steers.

    It took an all axle alignment and new torque arms on the rears to 'cure' the issue.
     
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