Thanks for the comment Texan I am trying to learn so all constructive criticism is wanted.
I can't remember where but I heard that with a spread the difference between your 2 axle weights is never more then 1000 lbs differnce. True of false? If false please educate me on it.
would I get a ticket?
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Chewy352, Jun 29, 2015.
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I think the engineers hope for no more then 500 lbs difference and perhaps strive for even less disparity, but the systems are rather complex and sensitive and susceptible to issues that can cause a wider disparity then one would like and the 1,000 lbs is probably closer to the average on the road today, then 500 lbs is. just because the systems are fallible and easy to get out of optimal adjustment.Chewy352 Thanks this.
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My trailer is also an old Melton trailer. I've seen some trailers with the spreads all the way to the rear. My rear axle is about 3 feet forward of the rear of the trailer which I think would move my weight center forward too. If my axles were all the way to the rear I belive my weight center would be at the mid marker.
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Now I really want to go weigh my spreads to see the difference but I can't leave this parking spot. It took too long to get one as it is lol. I normally don't get one unless I'm 38 or more on my spreads for peace of mind
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The load is 12ft long. C (center of load) is 5 ft from one end, 7ft from the other. We'll go with 47000. You need to move 4000 lbs. 470000lbs/12ft= 3917. So every foot foward or rear moves 3917 lbs.
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Well that was simpler then I was making it in my head. You got me on the permit but since I have not delt with oversized/overweight wouldn't I need a heavier duty trailer to go overweight?
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Not for 52000lbs. The trailer should be strong enough.
Some states will only give you 40000/axle with a non-divisible load. Some will give you quite a bit more. I'd worry about cooking the tires before breaking that trailer with 52k.
Anyways, keep up the good work.Chewy352 Thanks this. -
i can't remember who, i think it was texan. that posted some math on figuring out the center point. i think it was kingpin to center of spread axles and the math come up to 2 feet forward of center. i think it's this thread.
so you'd want 22 feet front half and 26 feet back half on a 48. i've always just gone with the turn signal or marker light which is the half way mark. 24 front and 24 rear. loads are usually close enough to not worry about it. at the most it's been 1000 more on the trailer. but when you load with a lot of NON english speaking. they only understand the hand pointing at the light.
as for the 52,000 pounds. that's maximum allowed legal weight on 48 spreads. if one was to max out their axle weights. but you'd need overweight permits. depending on the actual weight and states your running. for instance, colorado allows 86,000 pounds. but you have to run the secondaries and stay off the highways. wyoming will allow you to register for whatever weight and you can haul that without permits. 84,000 being the typical max for a standard axle axle setup. -
some like to run with steers at that 1,400 weight in the picture to save on wear and tear on the steers. but your shorting yourself 1000 pounds on the drives. no big deal for those of us running spread axles. but can be a big deal for closed tandems.(think, 68,000 lbs. total weight between drives and trailer axles.
some of us are running 12,400 on steers with full tanks. if the truck is rated you can go up to 13,000. i've actually had to use the excess allowed weight twice on my new truck. as the drives were too heavy. -
I have my 5th wheel as far forward as I can without hitting my headache rack in tight turns.
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