Need advice on getting a CDL, but not for career purposes

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by John Drury, Oct 5, 2015.

  1. miss elvee

    miss elvee Heavy Load Member

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    The recreational vehicle exemption varies state to state - call your DMV. Recreational use does still sometimes need a CDL - think those big bus sized RVs- Those need a CDL and some of them even need the air brake endorsement.

    You can ride along without a CDL. Depends on your buddy's company rider policy. If he's an owner op he may have a form to sign for his insurance before you hop in. That means you're not going to (legally) be driving his rig at all. Keep in mind, most companies will not allow you in the truck with a CDL or a CDL permit if you do not work for them.

    If you want to do any of the actual work in his truck, you'll need that CDL and to be insured for what you're driving. And if its a company truck... well, odds are slim that's even an option.

    The cheapest way is to go to Community College, like was already said.

    I'm sending my daughter and my brother to private trucking school. Hubby and I will be bringing them on to train in the spring. I had to get the permission of the owner of the company, look over insurances and figure it out. (We're NOT a training company.)
     
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  3. John Drury

    John Drury Bobtail Member

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    Thanks White Dog. That's what I've been trying to figure out...if I need special training or schooling in order to do this or if I can get some help from a friend and study / take the DMV test just like a regular license. I've been looking closely at the laws of PA and they have three separate CDL classes:

    • Class A: Any combination of vehicles with a gross vehicle weight rating (GWVR) of 26,001 lbs. or higher, provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is over 10,000 lbs.
    • Class B: Any single vehicle weighing 26,001 lbs. or more, or one towing another vehicle less then 10,000 lbs. GVWR.
    • Class C: Any single vehicle, or combination of vehicles, that does not meet the definition of Class A or Class B, but is either designed to transport 16 passengers or more - including the driver - or is placarded for hazardous materials.
    I believe I would qualify for Class C since I don't think a semi would weigh more than say 20,000 lbs soaking wet.
     
  4. lots of character

    lots of character Road Train Member

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    It's not the weight, unless it's a dilapidated piece of #### with hydraulic brakes or god forbid purely mechanical, true combination trucks are pneumatically equipped.

    Air brakes.

    Class A only
     
  5. bowtieboy77

    bowtieboy77 Light Load Member

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    First off class "a" is your tractor trailer class "b" is a bobtail tracter or dumptruck, straight truck, class "c" is bus. You will need a class A to drive your friends tractor trailer. You don't need to go to school. You can write az beginners at dmv then ride with friend and drive as long as he is sitting beside you ( not in sleeper) Then book a appointment for road test using your friends unit. That is how I got my AZ and started running long haul. Also a class "a" also covers class"b" but not class "c".
     
  6. John Drury

    John Drury Bobtail Member

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    Thanks Bowtie. So even if I didn't plan on doing any hauling of any kind, I would still need to get a Class A license in order to legally drive the semi?
     
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  7. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    I think if you got your CDL permit then you can drive with a CDL holder but he must be in the trk at all times.But it could also mean that permit is only good with an instructor.With a permit all you would need to do is take 3 written test at your DMV.General knowledge,combination vehicles and air brakes.But a permit expires I think in 90 days.So I would suggest getting that have your friend show you everything there is about trk driving and such then look for a schooling with fewer hrs then most once you know how to drive trk. But make sure to check with your DMV first about driving with your friend with a permit.
     
  8. HardlyWorkingNeverHome

    HardlyWorkingNeverHome Heavy Load Member

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    Where does it say you need a CDL to drive a truck for personal use in PA?
     
  9. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    You need a license to drive your car don't you?
     
  10. HardlyWorkingNeverHome

    HardlyWorkingNeverHome Heavy Load Member

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    You need a CDL to drive your car?
     
  11. Bakerman

    Bakerman Road Train Member

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    Lawfully, yes-technically, no.
     
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