$2 for 8 pages because your options are limited.
not if your tech savy.
it's amazing what the internet can do. including faxes and emails.
Is this app DOT acceptable?
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by j76ny, Mar 8, 2015.
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Electronic log book is legal as long as you show dot this info
DOT ALERT: Read This. Some DOT officers are under the mistaken opinion that DDL is covered by FMCSR 395.15 ‘Automatic on-board recording devices’. They are declaring that “DDL is illegal” since users can change their logs. So far, they are only issuing warnings and some ‘out of service’.
These DOT officers are mistaken. DDL is covered by FMCSR 395.8 ‘Driver’s record of duty status’. And in particular, DOT Interpretations 395.8 Question 28 (The big green FMCSR published February 2004 or later):
QUESTION 28:
“May a driver use a computer to generate his or her record of duty status (log book) and then manually sign the computer printouts in lieu of handwritten logs?
Guidance: A driver may use a computer to generate the graph grid and entries for the record of duty status or log books, provided the computer generated output includes the minimum information required by 395.8 and is formatted in accordance with the rules. In addition, the driver must:
1. Be capable of printing the record of duty status for the current 24-hour period at the request of an enforcement officer.
2. Print the record of duty status at the end of each 24-hour period, and sign it in his or her own handwriting to certify that all entries required by this section are true and correct.
3. Maintain a copy of printed and signed records of duty status for the previous 7 consecutive days and make it available for inspection at the request of the enforcement officer.” -
I'm gonna have to order up my PSP. or look at the company csa.
I''m pretty sure mine was .15
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fmcsa changed things around. Everything is now categorized. NO MORE seeing individual violations. We're stuck with our own psp's now.
i do see one ON BOARD RECORDING DEVICE REQUIREMENT NOT MET. which has to be me. I'm the only one using laptop for logs. and the code is .15(b) -
If you were written up under 395.15 the officer was wrong. Yours falls under 395.8 (I thought that was made obvious earlier in the thread, but no matter...). Even under 395.8 you must be given time to print. The current version of Question 28 is a little different than posted above (more clear and detail), but the gist is the same.Last edited: Oct 20, 2015
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From the interpretation:
"If the enforcement official requests printed copies of the RODS, the driver must be given an opportunity to print the current and prior seven days RODS (if required on those days) at the time of inspection."
"print" means print, not fax, not email, etc.
Who must print? "the driver.."
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Too often, people try reading too much into what is there thinking they have found some sort of imaginary loophole...then they get all upset when the plain language is what's used to write them the ticket and convict them if they show up to fight it.
If some people would put HALF the energy into doing things the right way as they do trying to find a unique way around it, they'd have a lot less headaches... -
AMEN brother!
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