Sadly that is how a large majority of that crowd is.
What boggles me is that they are so blinded by their impulses that they will never see where their problem is. It will always be blamed on someone else. That lack of responsibilty that I was talking about.
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Marijuana and trucking....
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by The Patriot, Nov 2, 2015.
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That's a HUGGGGEEEEE stretch. You're trying to bend facts to suit you're own made up hypothesis.
http://m.livescience.com/51450-driving-on-marijuana-alcohol-dangerous.html
To be perfectly clear: It's always safer to drive when you're not stoned, Hansen said.
A review of 60 studies presented in 1995 at the International Conference on Alcohol, Drugs and Traffic Safety found that marijuana impairs all the cognitive abilities needed for safe driving, including tracking,motor coordination, visual function and divided attention.
Still, driving while high may not be nearly as dangerous as driving while drunk.
The cognitive impairments caused by marijuana are correlated with only modest reductions in driving performance in driving simulations, according to a 2009 study in the American Journal of Addictions.
And in a study published June 23 in the journal Drug and Alcohol Dependence, researchers found that people who used vaporized marijuana were more likely toweave within their own lane, than people who were sober, but not more likely to weave out of their lane or speed. Drunk drivers, by contrast, were likely to do all three.
Increased accidents?
The tie between marijuana and traffic accidents is even shakier. For example, although a 2010 study in the journal Public Health Reports found that 11 percent of drivers killed in accidents had taken at least one drug, the link to marijuana is unclear. Those drivers were not necessarily using marijuana, and even if they had the drug in their systems, that doesn't mean they were high at the time of the accident, Hansen said.
There's no way to measure marijuana with a breathalyzer, so researchers use blood tests, but blood concentrations of marijuana's active ingredient THC can stay persistently high in chronic users. In traffic-fatality studies, any amount of THC in the blood, no matter how tiny, counts as a positive drug test.
So at least some of the people whose deaths are counted in such studies may not have been high at the time of the accident, Hansen said.
What's more, some studies suggestmarijuana users can effectively compensate for their impairments.
People who are drunk "are physically impaired, and they don't really think they're physically impaired," Hansen told Live Science "They'll drive faster, they'll follow cars at closer distances, they'll make rash, last-minute decisions."
By contrast, people who are slightly stoned may be more risk-averse and overestimate their impairment. For instance, people who have smoked just a third of a joint will say they are impaired, even when driving tests show no such effects, according to a 1993 study by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
"They'll drive slower, they'll follow cars at greater distances, they'll take some actions that at least somewhat offset the fact that they're impaired," Hansen said.
And in a 2013 study in the Journal of Law and Economics, Hansen and his colleagues found that in the year after medical marijuana laws were passed, traffic fatalities fell. The sharpest reductions were found in evening accidents and drunk-driving or alcohol-related accidents.
Hansen and his colleagues hypothesized that marijuana may actually be decreasing accidents because more people who would normally be drinking are instead using marijuana. However, it's tricky to untangle the relationship, as traffic fatalities have been falling nationwide for several years, according to the Insurance institute for Highway Safety. Improved car safety, lower drunk-driving rates overall or other unknown factors could play a role in that decline, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.MidWest_MacDaddy Thanks this. -
There are many folks who believe they should look the other way when it comes to drugs/alcohol. The whole "If it doesn't affect me directly" line. Well, your co-worker getting popped for a DUI or involved in a accident, or worse, a fatality, DOES affect you directly. The company will most likely see their trucks being pulled over for randoms more. Hard to make money when you're sitting for an hour getting inspected. If their clients get wind of drug issues then you're going to be sitting waiting for the next crap load to East BFE. To say that it doesn't affect you is just plain ignorant.
@The Patriot , I hope someone proof reads what you have to say before it goes into the news letter. lolCanned Spam Thanks this. -
That would be an easy thing to say, but it doesn't just affect the user, and it's not just for the 3 minutes it takes to burn one. Do you know anybody that will lock themselves in their room until they are stone cold sober?
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I read op and was a big disappointment
In 10 hours time Ohio votes on legalization of marijuana, it's too close to call the results.
I thought op was going to say management is aware that Ohio in two weeks will allow marijuana if it passes,
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same old same old
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Off the top of my head I know a mailman, teacher, lawyer, nurse, mechanic, electrician, construction laborer, plumber, dispatcher and probity more that I can't think of now, that all smoke and you wouldn't even know it. The bad ones are easy to spot, just like the bad alcoholics......
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Do you lock yourself up when you drink?
Most smokers I know do it in their own home or a friend's home and relax until it wears offKayman282 Thanks this. -
In your case, I would have to say "well done".
But as to the topic, what galls me the most is the idea of someone losing their job because they decided to smoke a joint in their own living room three weeks ago.
As long as they're straight when they come to work, I don't see any issue.nitetride379x, SISYPHUS, chy3280 and 5 others Thank this. -
Thanks , neither are good for you , I know that the medical pot has some advantages and I'm in favor of folks being able to access it. If pot is made legal ( like alcohol ) then it's use , sale , should come under the same standards as alcohol does. Legalize it , tax the crap out of it like booze , and tobacco , but have very strict standards for its use when operating a motor vehicle , stricter still for a commercial driver.
Like alcohol , it doesn't belong in your system , even at trace levels while driving. The risk is just too great , and the loss if life isn't worth that risk.
I'd like to say thanks to you also , for keeping your comments civil and on topic. It makes the exchange of opinions / ideas much better. Like canned Spam , I believe we agree more than not.chris886 and Canned Spam Thank this. -
You want to trust the guy who's already proven he was dumb enough to leave his pipe and personal behind, you go right ahead.
Me, I'm going to start wondering what else is in the truck. No way in hell am I going to drive it without covering my rear.Last edited: Nov 2, 2015
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