Cameras

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by bamamac, Nov 11, 2015.

  1. 8thnote

    8thnote Road Train Member

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    My wife and I have noticed this happening so regularly that we'll try and mess with them. Sometimes in our conversation we'll just throw in something totally random. "I sure do have a craving for Guatamalan Papayas today" or "I wish I new a good place to get the dog a DNA test". Sometimes it'll trigger the ads to start popping up, it's amazing actually. I doubt that there are actual people listening, but likely some kind of computer program that monitors cell phones. even when they're just sitting on the table and not being used the mic's are still listening if the power is on.
     
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  3. tinytim

    tinytim Road Train Member

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    Yep, seems like a pretty good reason to have a good hiring/training/evaluation process. Relying on a silly camera to show your faults after letting you loose seems a tad backwards to me.
     
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  4. BuckeyeKev

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    There purpose of those cameras are not educational. Don't think I believe they are a teaching tool any more than the camera at the gas station aimed at the cash register, or the overhead security at casinos or Amazon warehouses. They are there to protect the interest of the "house." If there is an accident and there is a claim of distracted driving - and you were on the phone against company policy, there's the proof. If you weren't well, aren't you glad there is a camera?

    Yes, they are invasive - the "right" to privacy is only from the government - but there are American principles at stake: the rights of ownership and protection of investment. You don't want a camera in a truck? Buy your own. Don't ask the provider of YOUR employment to respect your rights when they have the biggest stack of chips in the pot compared to you. Does it stink? Yup. Is there a need for it? Yup. If drivers wouldn't screw up there wouldn't be a need for red lights, or red light cameras. Don't blame technology - blame the lazy drivers who have brought regulation into the industry.
     
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    No it is not me but the bone heads that cant drive and the people that hire them to drive for them.

    Yes it did save the drives life as it was a medical issue that caused the crash. As I said if the camera was not there and he kept his job OR went someplace else it would have happened again and maybe with not so good out come of just a crashed rig.

    And no I am not a millennial.

    So what you going to do when ALL trucks have to have cameras to be on the road? When you quit I can then ask for more money as there will be 1 less driver out here ;)
    BTW if you have a car that needs a computer to start and drive/run it has a black box so if you have a crash "they" can check it to see what was going on just before it happened.

    You know what is nice about America we can ALL have an opinion. You don't like cameras so be it. As I said above what you going to do when cameras have to be installed quit?

    I am 100% with you on this. It is their equipment they trust me with so if they want to install a camera so be it. I believe the company would not run cameras because they did not fix the broken ones but is forced to run cameras by the insurance co. Yes it is money driven on what they save. Don't you if your car has anti lock brakes? Years ago it was if your car had seat belts you saved money.
    There is an ad on TV from 1 of the insurance companies you plug a box in to the cars data port and it either records or sends information back to them. Guess why you would install it....yep to save money!
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  7. tinytim

    tinytim Road Train Member

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    I have a very different take.

    First, I'm pretty sure the principle of presumed innocence still exists in your country.

    Second, proof of distraction doesn't transfer the liability from the company to the driver regardless of company policy. It's still their insurance that's going to pay and their rates that will suffer. And the driver is still the one that will go to jail under the right circumstances.

    I do think it's a teaching tool. It's designed to correct bad behaviour before the unthinkable occurs and that may protect the house as you call it as well as the driver and the general public. Better evaluating of drivers would also go a long way in that regard.

    I can see a use for it but there will never be a driver facing cam in my truck. If it gets legislated I'll stay in Canada. If it gets legislated here it'll be time to retire. It's just too Orwellian for me.
     
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  8. bamamac

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    Those cameras are there to protect the co. interests. If they help the driver then good. But they are there for team carriers, not to protect the driver.What happen to the day when a truck driver was clearly a truck driver and not some bend over and take it dude?
     
  9. MACK E-6

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    This type of linguistic contortionism in one for the ages. You must no problem whatsoever scratching your back if you're able to reach like this.

    NONE of what happened in this alleged video required a driver facing camera to be proven. A simple medical exam would have uncovered any such issues.

    Bushwa.

    That statement can be used to justify just about anything and everything under the sun, and it never ceases to amaze me how I often I see it so casually tossed around like any ordinary football by those who apparently have NO problem WHATSOEVER having policies imposed in them in the name dumbing things down to the level of accomodating the lowest common denominator.

    If that is how YOU want to work, have at it. The rest of us, however, are better than that.:cool:
     
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  10. MACK E-6

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    It's all about a means of shifting the slip-and-fall lawyers' target.
     
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    If it was a medical problem thats why we have a health care system. If they want to know if your on the phone thats why there is phone records. If they want to know speeding, weather, traffic, when you applied brakes an EOBR and the web can tell you all that. If they want to know if you were cut off a outside facing camera works. A driver facing camera does what now? It only shows if you wear yourseat belt... Nm your ### on the concrete will solve that mystery. The only thing it helps is comp. Interest. I would even vouch that first yr drivers make it maditory to watch there actions and retrain as necessary. After a yr take it out or put the rookie formally know as newbie in a truck without it. Stop falling victim to what ppl say you need. But if thats floats your boat then you need to buy this hemi i have in a 379 that gets 26mpg.
     
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