Rates in the toilet?

Wouldn't be nice of we could buy insurance by the day now as there's more days I don't need it than days I do.

 

Til the company changes their name and overnight go non union. BP did that in Chicago for the asphalt division.

 

Back about 23 years ago or so, a road construction company asked it's drivers to take a $5/hr (IIRC) cut. Bad times they said. Promised new trucks. And after a while would gradually move back up. Better to take a cut, then take a hit of bye bye job.

So they voted and agreed. Dirty owner gave them the new truck, but never really went close to where they were.

 

1st rebuttal, rebuttal. Wasn't it OSHA that improved work conditions, and not the unions? Not sure, that's why I ask.

 

Theoretically, perhaps. But if an employee complained in a non union shop, well......you get the idea.

 

I have been thinkin on getting my own truck and authority and have started to do some research and I think that I have been scared away from owning my own after reading the threads on here lately. However, you guys talk about loads paying 1.30 per mile and less, yet DAT load boards SPOT rates are showing an average of 1.70+ for vans, 1.90+ for flat recently. Now I called them to see if I could get an account with them to look more into how their averages are calculated and to see if the rates really are that good in the Midwest, but they wouldn't let me set up an account without a DOT number, and I don't really want to spend 200$ per month for their Trendline reports. So, are they using some ######## math to calculate these average SPOT rates or what?

 

Here's a better question for you to ask:
"Who on this forum calls up DAT and tells them what a load actually paid, so that they can enter that info into their calculations?"

Then take the number of guys who say they do, and use that number vs the total number of members on this forum (biggest trucking forum in the world!) and consider how accurate those spot market rates are.

 

They show higher numbers to attract new customers. $1.60-1.90 is doable depending on how many miles you want to run and where, but you gotta make a crap load of calls to get good paying loads

 

So they voted and agreed. Dirty owner gave them the new truck, but never really went close to where they were.[/QUOTE]
I've seen this happen first hand. "Oh rough times no more raises but when it picks up you'll get a huge raise!" Lets just say business picked up but the pay is the same it was 15 years ago. Last I checked everything is much more expensive than 15 years ago so every year people made less and less. Now all of their good drivers left and half of their fleet is broken at a time and customers are #####ing about crappy drivers.

 

Say you have 5 loads posted:

$400 on 200
$400 on 200
$400 on 200
$400 on 200
$1400 on 1000

DAT says that is a $2, $2, $2, $2, & $1.40 load which meams the average load is $1.88/mile.

I say that is $3000 for 1800 miles which is $1.67/mile