Log Book Hours

You can go from line 4 to line 1 if you are relieved of that load... ie - lumpers,, dock crew unloading and all you do is sit in your cab... you are still on your 14 hr clock.... and since you run more than 100 miles you are bound by the 14 hr clock... you cannot log sleeper since a day cab is not defined as qualifying as a sleeper according to the FMCSA...

so all in all... you log from line 3 to line 4 for 15 min then up to line 1 till you are unloaded...

now if you assist, tailgate or unload the box yourself then you must stay on line 4 for this time....you can go over your 14 hr clock so long as you are still on line 4... but you cannot go to line 3 after your 14 hr clock is up or the 11 hr clock is up..

 

Chromedome... your company is wrong... you do not need to log within an 100 mile radius and in the same state... since you cross state lines you need to log each and every time in a logbook...

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrguide.htm

 

you can call your state dot or go to this webpage..

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrguide.htm

their is a provision for the extended hour if you start and stop at the same place... but since I run OTR I am not really up on it.... check out the link...

 

Ok from what I understand without "issues" the run takes 10 hours total!

Well lets say you start this run # 4:00 am. You do a pre-trip on line 4 I assume (if your company will let you do the post-trip on line 4 this would help you out tremendously and your actually logging the correct way as the post-trip is the main inspection) so it's 4:15 you drive 5 hours to the customer (it's 9:15 am)
(lets keep in mind your 14 hour is going to end # 6:00 pm) You are dealing with loading/unloading for 30 minutes but there for 2 hours. The time you are not dealing with it (go to the sleeper if you have one, if you don't unfortunately you are on-duty not driving) so that puts you # 11:15 am now. Now you are ready to roll back you have until 6:00 pm to drive 6 hours. You can not drive passed 6:00 pm and from 4:00 am to 6:00 pm you can not DRIVE over 11 hours.

I don't see a problem unless traffic holds you LONGER than 1 hour during your 14 hour day

I believe you are thinking the on-duty time is coming out of your 11 hours of driving. It doesn't.
I also wonder if you think by showing off duty for 2 hours that will extend your 14 hours and it doesn't. You have 14 hours from the time you start your day and 11 hours to drive. At your 14th hour you can not drive anymore for ANY REASON WHAT SO EVER! Unless you use the 1 day 16 hour rule as listed below.
Now are you a local driver? You are allowed one 16 hour work day if you are a local driver only!


Below is the Q & A from the book: Again you must NORMALLY be running 100 air mile radius. You can't use this if you run 100 air mile radius 2 days a week

-7. May a "100 air-mile radius" driver utilize the "16-hour duty period" exception in Part § 395.1(o)?
Yes. A driver normally operating under the 100 air-mile radius exception in

§ 395.1(e) may also meet the requirements in § 395.1(o) enabling the driver to have one period of 16 hours on-duty each week (or after a 34-hour restart). However, on the day in which the 16-hour exception is utilized, the driver would not meet the 12-hour duty-period requirement of the 100 air-mile radius exception and would therefore be required to make a RODS for that day.


I didn't have time to read through all the replies and get updated. So I started from the top

 

If you have a sleeper you can go into the sleeper and relax while they load you. Understand this time is still counting against your 14 hour, however it saves on your 70 hour rule for the week.

It would not make a difference on your 14 hour if you logged it on line 4, line 2 or line 1 everything counts against your 14 hour clock unless you have 8 hours in the sleeper

 

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