Are Companies Still Hiring Drivers?

Discussion in 'Motor Carrier Questions - The Inside Scoop' started by jtaran06, May 11, 2008.

  1. mannmk7

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    The original question was, "Are Companies Still Hiring".

    I have been writing on these issue's because I feel these things may effect hiring. These are ideas based on things staying as they are.

    Food Crisis
    Food will go up with in the next 6 mo's at least 50% if not double. There, you have a time frame.

    OIL, ELECTRIC & SOLAR CONNECTION

    Electric does have Jack to do with oil. One fuel you forgot to mention was natural gas. I'm sure, me being familiar with your intellect, this was just an oversight on your part. It's to bad people can't draw the connection between electricity, solar and cars. PLUG IN CARS. Most auto travel is with in 40 miles of home. Electric cars, plug ins, will be great for this market.

    As far as plateing the planet is concerned here's some info on solar. Most recently Nevada Solar 1 was built and completed in about 18 mos. on 400 acres, supplying enough power to supply 40,000 homes. Try to do this with your Nuke Stuff, in this short of a period of time. We need action asap not some day. You need more info on solar success look up CA solar, Nevada Solar 1.

    Let me give you another example a 400 acre parcel will provide enough energy for a mall town like Kingman. If each small town dedicated 400 acres to solar they would be in good shape.

    Arizona gov. Janet Napolitono wants to make AZ the Sudia Arabia of solar energy. We have the land and the sun for it.

    As far as running trucks, it's good to see you can see bio-diesel.

    HOUSING PRICE DROPPING TO 2002 PRICE LEVELS
    On the subject of homes dropping in price. I say they will drop to 2002 prices. I use some reported info to come to conclusions. I don't state what they say. I use my own observations of the turn of events in the world around us. Reports are made so as not to panic the public. Some people are in denial like Bush. Bush was asked, by a journalist, what he felt about the predictions of $4.00 a gal gas. Bush threw his Bush crap back at the reporter, "who said that. I never heard that." Well now 2 mos. later we are at $4.14 a gal.

    It's good to hear you are willing to consider the idea that prices might drop to 2002. For warned is for armed.


    The Dow
    On the Dow you say it's possible but you doubt that it will fall. WHAT do you think it's going to do? I stand behind what I say. The Dow will drop to 10,500-11,000 there abouts, as I have said. Put yourself out there, say something rather than try to ridicule people.

    It's good to converse with people. It would be nice if some weren't quite as smug as they are. I notice this is prevalent on the net, on forums. What's that all about.​
     
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  3. Lurchgs

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    I, too, think the issues are relevant - which is why I responded.

    I still think that's high. Individual items, yes. Overall food bill? I think more like 10-15% at most. That's insanely high, too, for 6 months - but I think it much more likely than 50%.

    I didn't mention natural gas or propane specifically, but yes, I am aware of it. It's about on a par with Hyrdrogen as a fuel - good for light weight vehicles, but lacks the energy per unit volume to work in heavy stuff effectively.

    And no - oil does NOT have anything to do with electricity. I'm unable to find any oil fired power plants - any where. The three main sources of electricty are as I mentioned.

    I have no problems at all with electric cars - I think you'll find that I did mention them. Electric, fuel cell, hydrogen, etc, are why the suburban expansion is not going to collapse, as you were suggesting it would.

    We're talking slightly different things, here. You are talking about supplying power to homes - which have pretty light demands (pardon the pun). I'm talking about supplying the grid. One electric oven steel plant would suck up all that electricity and more. Multiply that by the hundreds of such plants in existence - and all the other industries that MUST have significant power with which to operate.. it flatly can NOT be done. There is not sufficient energy falling on the face of the planet to do it.

    Pull the numbers and compare. Anything other than nuclear is a stop-gap or a supplement. It can NOT be the primary source.

    I've spent a long time looking at this issue. There are all kinds of alternatives, but the only economically viable one I see is biodiesel.

    Part of the problem here is that the president doesn't control the market, nor does he control the oil companies. Further, he doesn't operate in a vacuum. If his advisors convince him a trend is topping, that's what he'll tell you - same as any other president.

    Of course, we're gonna disagree here. I don't think it's going to fall that far. I can see it falling to 11000 - but even that won't be over night.

    Query - where in my response did I ridicule anybody?
     
  4. mannmk7

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    I don't understand how you can't to see the connection between oil and electricity.

    If you convert the million's of auto's to plug in cars or use hybrid to drive with in there 40 mile electric range you with save oil big time. Use solar as I have discribed and "Wa La". Would this cut the use of oil or not. Yes or No. Please no long drawn out comments on this one point for now.

    On food your getting closer, so am I when I say 50%. I think food could double in price.

    The Dow will come down to just about 10,500. On this point your coming around. At least your saying 11,000. The market will trade in the area of 10,000 to 11,000 for 3-7 years. :biggrin_25521:

    As for the president having anything to do with housing prices, I'm not saying he does. I was using a recent news item to demonstrate how people can be in denial.

    But I do BLAME the government for the sub prime crisis. Because this never should have happened if we had good gov. over sight.
     
  5. Lurchgs

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    AHA I see where you are at. I thought you meant directly. Yes, mass conversion of cars to any other fueling system would, indeed, cut the use of oil. By about 15%, if memory serves.

    [/quote]
    On food your getting closer, so am I when I say 50%. I think food could double in price.[/quote]

    I'm always willing to admit the possibility. I just don't think it will.

    Obviously, I'm being more moderate than you :) You are saying the market will bottom at 10k, I say at worst it will be 11k. down from 12. Neither is a dangerous drop, really.

    [/quote]
    As for the president having anything to do with housing prices, I'm not saying he does. I was using a recent news item to demonstrate how people can be in denial.

    But I do BLAME the government for the sub prime crisis. Because this never should have happened if we had good gov. over sight.[/quote]

    Lol - yeah, lots of folk in denial. A bunch in the Amazon, too. Absolutely no argument.

    I'll even agree that government is at least partly responsible.. though I think we'll have to disagree on the appropriate actions :)
     
  6. mannmk7

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    On food your getting closer, so am I when I say 50%. I think food could double in price.[/quote]

    I'm always willing to admit the possibility. I just don't think it will.


    Obviously, I'm being more moderate than you :) You are saying the market will bottom at 10k, I say at worst it will be 11k. down from 12. Neither is a dangerous drop, really.

    [/quote]
    As for the president having anything to do with housing prices, I'm not saying he does. I was using a recent news item to demonstrate how people can be in denial.

    But I do BLAME the government for the sub prime crisis. Because this never should have happened if we had good gov. over sight.[/quote]

    Lol - yeah, lots of folk in denial. A bunch in the Amazon, too. Absolutely no argument.

    I'll even agree that government is at least partly responsible.. though I think we'll have to disagree on the appropriate actions :)[/quote]

    I guess I made myself a little clearer. Just takes me a little time. We were at 14,000, from 14 down to 10 is is a step down. The dangerous part of the Dow at 10,000, is that it will be there for 3-7 years. To clearify I mean it will bounce up and down from 10,000 to 12,000. This a long time to be stuck in this range :biggrin_25521:
     
  7. mannmk7

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    On food your getting closer, so am I when I say 50%. I think food could double in price.[/quote]

    I'm always willing to admit the possibility. I just don't think it will.


    Obviously, I'm being more moderate than you :) You are saying the market will bottom at 10k, I say at worst it will be 11k. down from 12. Neither is a dangerous drop, really.

    [/quote]
    As for the president having anything to do with housing prices, I'm not saying he does. I was using a recent news item to demonstrate how people can be in denial.

    But I do BLAME the government for the sub prime crisis. Because this never should have happened if we had good gov. over sight.[/quote]

    Lol - yeah, lots of folk in denial. A bunch in the Amazon, too. Absolutely no argument.

    I'll even agree that government is at least partly responsible.. though I think we'll have to disagree on the appropriate actions :)[/quote]

    Hey Lurchgs,

    How about that market. It's below your first prediction of 11,500. It's almost to were you predicted it will go the 2nd time, 11,000. :biggrin_2559:

    Now we will see my prediction come into play. To soon to say who will look silly.

    I hope your driving job is going good. :biggrin_25517:
     
  8. Markvfl

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    I can't predict the stock market. If I could I'd have my own show on CNBC and put Jim Kramer outta business! :biggrin_2559:

    I watched a very interesting and disturbing video about the oil supply of the world. Its called the energy non crisis and it is on you tube and any other video site. Be warned - it may cost you a night's sleep... :biggrin_25524:
     
  9. supraboy757

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    i know swift is on a 2 month hiring freeze for exp drivers where i live they are only taking students
     
  10. rollnrock

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    Instead of playing guessing-games on where our economy is headed do some research on the trucking industry! Analysts as well as trucking CEO's post thier ideas on where the trends are headed and they have had lots of experience. For example if you read the Global Insight analysis for the ATA the trend line for the next decade is apx. 2%+ growth a year in frieght and that ties very closely with the last 10 years. When you look at people retiring, and many have health issues by age 65, these figures mean the U.S. will need drivers! Sure variables like fuel price, housing, employment affect it year to year but over a 10 year period the trends are going up. The American economy is very diversified and when one area declines new ones open up. The great thing about being a driver I believe there will be jobs even if you have to jump to a local outfit and take a pay cut eventually things improve!
     
  11. mannmk7

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    Guessing games have there place. And there a bit entertaining. As for useing history as a measure this would be fine except we may be heading into uncharted territory because of this energy problem.

    If our energy provisons grow along with our society things should move along as you have mentioned.

    The best way to insure growth is to attempt to eliminate the oil factor as much as possible, as fast as possible. This must be chipped away at with massive solar and wind energy builing programs on the same scale as the dam building projects of the 1930's if not bigger.

    T. Boon Pickens is the most powerful person talking about solar and wind energy in a massive and meaningful way. I must say he should have been moving in this direction 20 yrs ago. Atleast he's putting his all into it now.

    :biggrin_25520:
     
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