Arrow; How Can You Not Make Money There?

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  1. dcedlr

    dcedlr Light Load Member

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    If this is true your husband needs to speak to the DM's supervisor or call Gary Myers himself. Arrow has an open door policy but I would first try and work it out with his DM's supervisor (I dont recall her name but if he calls Arrow the operator can give him her name and extension) before going to Gary Myers since he is the top cheese. I have not heard of anyone getting that low of miles and not getting paid for layovers. If your husband is regional those kind of runs are what he chose to do so he can be home every 7 days with two off. However, if he is OTR and getting that there is a huge problem somewhere that needs to be addressed. OTR drivers are getting as many miles as they want as long as they are willing to run. I stay out 5-6 weeks and take a week off usually. Good luck.
     
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  3. ziggystyles

    ziggystyles Road Train Member

    Hahahahaha thats funny. Made me laugh pretty hard actually. Thinking we get jealous...hahahahahahaha.
     
  4. wildone

    wildone Bobtail Member

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    another question is does arrow pay for deadhead miles need to think these things out
     
  5. dcedlr

    dcedlr Light Load Member

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    Arrow pays all miles dispatched. If you have 1,000 miles to go pick up a load your paid for it. The only miles your not paid for is your drive home for home-time. However, you are paid for your miles dispatched from your home-time.

    I have been with Arrow for over 9 months and I am very happy. I get all the miles I want (3000+ a week) and get paid accurately and on time. .34 to start and .36 after 3 months. As I have said in all my other posts you will just be a number, but if you dont need your hand held or "atta boys" you will be very happy with Arrow. If you have any questions feel free to send me a message or reply to this message. Good luck.
     
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  6. Sailboat501

    Sailboat501 Bobtail Member

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    dcedlr :notworthy:

    Hope you can keep us posted with your adventures at Arrow.
    Do you get back to Nevada very often??
    Or are you mostly stuck running east of the rockies.

    :biggrin_25525:
     
  7. Jarhed1964

    Jarhed1964 Road Train Member

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    To make money at Arrow, do NOT....... I repeat, do NOT go Regional. You will sit, then be given low paying loads. If you are % regional, as was I, you will just about starve to death.

    Do not expect to have your QC messages answered quickly. Not going to happen. Do not expect to have your truck maintained properly at all times. If you happen to get by a terminal, get it done ASAP, because if you lose AC/Heat on the road, your just going to have to deal with it. Expect to clean out your own truck when you pick it up. Do not expect to get modern equipment such as trailers with air ride suspensions (it does make a difference, trust me). There are some newer aluminum split axles in the fleet, but not nearly enough. Portable strap winches went out of style in the 70's. There are a few old-school companies using them along with Arrow. It does add time to your securement process. Dont lose em either, you have to pay for replacements.

    Overall, I would not recommend Arrow for a new driver. There are other companies that will pay you better and give you better, safer equipment. I'm one that believes that if you are going to live in a truck, you should be living as comfortable as possible in said truck. TMC (I know I'll hear the argument about them, but I worked there, I know) is one example. Their equipment is top of the line, and none of it is paid for by you (you'll pay for some equipment at Arrow). If you have a clean driving record, a satisfactory job history (no job hopping), can keep yourself and your equipment relatively clean and organized, you can choose between percentage pay and mileage pay with TMC. If you are at TMC and make anything less than $1k/week, you need to reconsider your career choice or perhaps discontinue playing video games at the Pilot when you are supposed to be driving.

    :biggrin_25525:

    There are other flatbed companies who will pay you plenty of money to work hard too. Even Maverick Glass will start newbies at .41/mi, but you WILL be driving into Canada (heard that was a nightmare), you WILL be breaking down the glass trailers with your own tools, etc. It's hard work, but I've heard of some very fat paychecks.

    Dont expect to flatbed with ANY company and make good money if your not willing to work hard and run hard. Just not going to happen.
     
  8. Drive-a-Mack

    Drive-a-Mack Light Load Member

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    ..just curious, who is TMC & where are they located, do they have a website? (never mind, i found them using Goggle)

    ..and from their website!

    ""TMC knows that great drivers want to drive great, well-maintained and safe equipment. That's why we have new Peterbilt trucks. Not only are these the best looking trucks on the road, the interiors are designed to provide superior driver comfort. Here are just a few of the features offered on our trucks:
    • Leather seats and top-of-the-line interior package
    • Power heated mirrors
    • CB radios
    • Power steering & power windows
    • Eaton Vorad Collision Warning System
    • Jake Brake
    • 13-speed transmission
    • Cat C-15 475 horsepower engine
    • Qualcomm Satellite System
    Drivers who take pride in what they do want clean equipment. TMC pays to have all of its trucks washed weekly. We also support you with round the clock road repair service as well as exceptional operational support.
    At TMC, we really do treat our drivers like family.
    Annett Holdings owns and operates the Baymont Inn & Suites near the Des Moines International Airport. This upscale hotel-which includes a swimming pool, fitness spa, game rooms, and a barbershop-serves as TMC's Employee Hospitality Center. Drivers stay at the hotel, which is open to the public, while their tractors are being serviced in TMC's nearby maintenance facility".. (whoooaaa, really? ..sounds too good to be true!)
     
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  9. Jarhed1964

    Jarhed1964 Road Train Member

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    Yeah, it's true. If you go to Des Moines for orientation, you stay in the hotel right on the campus. It's not a luxury hotel, at least on the Drivers' side of the building, but it's pretty nice. And the pool is heated.

    Look, dont just think about TMC for the beautiful Petes, go because you are ready to work and make plenty of money. You WILL work. You'll work your *** off, but you'll make plenty of bank. You'll get probably the best securement training in the industry (my opinion, have only been trained by TMC, and then saw Arrow's securement "training"), you'll have the best equipment out there, but you'll be held accountable. If your not delivering on time, or getting the truck to the wash when your supposed to, or picking up on time, or keeping your truck and personal appearance looking like he11, you are not going to have a good time there. They are looking for professionals, plain and simple.

    Now all this said, TMC does have it's share of problems too. They have dispatchers who have attitude problems, they have weekend dispatchers who seem to be void of grey matter (I think pretty much every weekend dispatcher in every company has this problem), and they have DM's who can be just like the DM's of any other company. Most probably came from other companies.

    But you WILL be safe. You dont have a choice. You WILL be on time, if not it affects your pay. And yes, you'll have fun. I made the mistake of leaving. No biggie, I've moved on to another career now, but TMC is where I started my trucking career. I recommend it for newbies. Go there, learn the right way.
     
  10. scrapy918

    scrapy918 Bobtail Member

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    I came to Arrow right out a truck school in Phx, AZ. and I've been with Arrow for 7 months and they have only screwed me out of miles 2 times. But overall I'm pretty happy with them. I run hard and have never been late on a load. I usually get to my destination a day early and most of the times they will unload me. Right now I'm in Philly visiting my family and waiting for a load, even though I now live in Phx, AZ.
     
  11. sgreer78

    sgreer78 Light Load Member

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    Look what I just found in the dictionary:

    Naive-

    na·ive [​IMG] [​IMG] /nɑˈiv/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[nah-eev]

    1.dcedlr

    2.having or showing unaffected simplicity of nature or absence of artificiality; unsophisticated; ingenuous.

    3.having or showing a lack of experience, judgment, or information; credulous: She's so naive she believes everything she reads. He has a very naive attitude toward politics.

    4.having or marked by a simple, unaffectedly direct style reflecting little or no formal training or technique: valuable naive 19th-century American portrait paintings.

    5.not having previously been the subject of a scientific experiment, as an animal.
     
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