unique E-Log question

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by dieseldan2001, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. dieseldan2001

    dieseldan2001 Bobtail Member

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    This question is for you drivers that do food service, or any other type of regional/otr route hauling where you bounce from town to town with multiple stops in each town. When I was running a regional route, we always logged all in town stops as on duty NOT driving. Once you entered the city limits you went on duty NOT driving and then back to driving once you left town. How does this work with Elogs since it senses when the truck is moving to change duty status? This is a huge thing at my company because we are be able to save upwards of 45 min to 1 hr of drive time and make it back home in one day. Now with Elogs I don't know if that would be possible. Thus costing the company more money and meaning we would be spending the night away from home but only be out about 1 hour from base. Are there any programs that allow for this? Unless the ruling gets overturned somehow we will end up getting Elogs like most others, but we are not sure which ELD will work best for our unique setup.
     
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  3. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    You can download an app and give it a trial to see how elogs would work. Just dont do the registration process as they will call your company for a sale. Look in whatever phone store you have. I cant think of the namr right off hand for that one popular app.
     
  4. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    I don't have one (yet), but I understand they track to the minute. So your day will have tons of lines from line 3 to line 4. I would think you should be ok unless you are using up say 5.5 hours each way from origin city to destination city, in which case the run was not being scheduled to be able to be completed legitimately legally in the first place.
     
  5. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    As for the elogs. I dont think anyone has an idea of what the system will be like.
     
  6. dieseldan2001

    dieseldan2001 Bobtail Member

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    When I ran that route, I had it down (even by google maps) to 10.5 hrs of driving time, depending on which stops i had that day. Now keep in mind that google or any other map guide goes to the center of a town to calculate distance and time. Cities can take 1/2 hr or more to get from one side to the other. So if I had stops on both sides of a certain city i would lose 1/2hr or more bouncing from stop to stop. Keep in mind this would be all logged as local time if you were 100 air miles or less from a home base. We have been doing like that for years and DOT has instructed us and everyone else I know doing this same type of work to do it like this. NEVER a problem during an inspection regarding the amount of time in one city or total hours on a given duty status. ALSO we can use the 16hr rule once a week which I did, cause I would always be local the rest of the week and be home every night. However the 16hr rule doesn't extend drive time, so again we will burn up our drive time if the line won't switch to on duty NOT driving.
     
  7. Jakethebrake99

    Jakethebrake99 Light Load Member

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    your elog will show driving when driving regardless of the stops. there is no way around it.
     
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  8. lowgear14

    lowgear14 Medium Load Member

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    DOT came out with new rules about elogs this year. Example: If you are driving on the customer's property, and let's say it's a big facility. If you drive 25 miles an hour on the customer's property. The new elog will throw you on line 3 on your elogs. DOT wants to keep a record of the actual drive time. It's not companies out there making these rules, it's DOT making these rules.
     
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  9. dieseldan2001

    dieseldan2001 Bobtail Member

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    I never said it was companies making these rules. I am well aware of what the FMCSA passed last year. I know its DOT. Maybe I am not wording my questions correctly. I don't run Elogs. So to drivers that do run them in these situations, how are working or is there a certain system that allows for this provision seeing as it is NOT illegal to log on duty not driving when bouncing around a town. I find it hard to believe that companies that run regional routes especially food service, are having to completely redo how they operate just because elogs can't tell what you're doing besides moving or not moving.
     
  10. Bean Jr.

    Bean Jr. Road Train Member

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    The elog mandate, as far as I know does not change what is driving and what isn't. While off road at a customer, just because the logging device switches to driving, doesn't make it driving anymore than being stuck in stop and go traffic under the threshold speed makes it on duty, not driving.

    Most current devices, if duty status has changed to driving, as long as 5 minutes have not passed, the device can be manually changed to on duty, not driving.
     
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