Going Ahead with DPF.

Not exactly impounding, but they can have CHP put the vehicle OOS:

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/truckstop/azregs/enforcement.htm

 

Why not make the exhaust run thought DPF in Cali then out side the state open the exhaust to the go out the stacks. Like the drag car uncapping there headers at the tracks.

 

I talked to my mechanic about that but I think he wanted to check the legality of it

 

Nope, you can't tampered with the system. That's why you have to use a Certified Installer. If it was possible, trust me.....everyone would of done it.

 

It's about $1800.00 more for the R-50. But they won't install it before making sure you can create enough heat with the higher horsepower. The "Can" has to run hot to burn off the soot. The R-40 is just about standard. My installer said he has put them in 550's.

 

I have a peace of mind when I drive "anywhere" in the state. Carb is not impounding anything. You just get a citation and a hefty fine. BTW, you would be really surprised where they pop out at. Places where you least expect it. I have seen them set up in Industrial area's and even in small cities with the local LEO. I know many that also are rolling the dice. But they are stressed out, always looking ahead just incase.

 

I just had a DPF installed in January of this year on my 2001 Volvo VNL770 Cummins N-14 Celect +.

I had no choice as I have to run Cali because of my commitment to being in my young daughter's life.

I decided to have a Johnson Mathey CRT (Size D 13" diameter filter, according to the CARB for "Family of engine guide). I paid $13,100 installed out the door at A2Z Emission Service in Colton, CA.

As of last month A2Z Emission Retrofit Department ceased to exist and was bought out by Diesel Emission Service in Ontario, CA.

A 12.7 Detroit will cost less because it uses a smaller sized filter. The Shop that installed my filter had installed about a dozen or so of my friend's trucks who have 12.7 Detroits. They paid about $10,700 out the door for the same Johnson Matthey CRT filter, but a Size C, which is 12" in diameter.

A Johnson Mathey CRT DPF for a 15 or 16 liter CAT will cost about $18k, that's about the price point where I believe it's time to either stop running Cali, or invest in newer equipment.

The Johnson Mathey CRT replaces the vertical muffler and besides being noticeably bigger in diameter then the stock muffler, it fits well in the stock location.

The OEM vertical stack mount is reused, except it is slightly modified to accommodate the larger diameter sized filter. A new heat shield is also included in the price.

I also looked at DPF from another manufacturer called HUG Filtersystems, they make the Mobiclean R filter, which is a shorter and fatter diameter sized filter that was meant to be installed in a horizontal (weedburner) position. I didn't really like the way it would have looked on my truck, the price was about the same, but it didn't suit me.

My friends who had their filters installed months before my install have not noticed any negligible difference in power, or any increase in engine coolant or oil temps or pyro temps.

I pull anywhere from 7k to 44k lb loads from the So Cal area to the Phoenix area and all is normal with the truck.

I did alot of contemplating and research on whether to purchase a 2012 with DEF or newer truck or retrofit mine, and for now I just couldn't see investing $65k or more and years of payments, when my Pre-Emission truck runs and looks great, is paid for, and will stay out of the Shop much longer than any Post-Emission truck will.

If I didn't have to run Cali, would I have put a filter on, of course not, as I think CARB is a load of crap, but I have a peace of mind when I am in Cali that I'm Compliant.

Sure you can be a Outlaw, (I would've been one too, but the Company I'm leased to had to phase in their Non-Compliant trucks by 2016 or not run Cali) but when you get caught and fined, the $1000 fine you paid could have been used towards purchasing a DPF or newer equipment.

Some friends of mine who had Non- Compliant trucks decided to stay out of California or some sold their Non-Compliant trucks and purchased newer ones to be able to run in California.

The one advantage of installing a DPF on a Pre Emission truck is, it is a Stand Alone system and it isn't tied into the ECM or any part of the engine.

If one day I decide to sell the truck and a buyer who lives outside Cali and doesn't want to run Cali can remove the system, put the stock muffler back on, and it's business as usual.

Everyone's situation is different and you need to determine what is best for your future, if your truck is beat to hell, investing $10k to $14k on a DPF may not be worth it, the money could be better spent on newer equipment.

As far as the Banning, CA scale or any Cali Scale, the key to keeping you off their radar is to keep your truck clean and maintained looking.

The last time I was pulled in for a Level 3 Inspection was back in 2006 at the Winterhaven Scale off I-8.

If they see the outside clean, truck body parts not broken or hanging out with bungees tying it up, keep your wheels polished or clean, they're not going to bat a eye in your direction.

 

The particular DPF installed is according to the "Family" of Detroit 12.7 engine that your truck belongs too.

The Installer will look it up according to a chart that CARB goes by.

It will definitely be less expensive than a CAT engine.

If you want to keep the "looks" of the stacks. You may have to go with a Weedburner DPF and leave the stacks on as Dummy Stacks.

It all depends on the diameter of the DPF, as they are much thicker in circumference then your stock muffler and might look mismatched with one stack being a Dummy and the other a DPF.