Another pretrip/postrip log question

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Teamdotson, Jul 24, 2008.

  1. Teamdotson

    Teamdotson Light Load Member

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    Ok Lets say I start my day at 5 am. Can I log from off duty after 10 hrs straight to driving and just flag the pretrip? If so do I flag it right at 5 am with the change of duty or do I back it to lets say 4:45 and flag it earlier and write the time spent?

    Also when I roll across the scales I do not have to flag this correct?

    I log everything as I do it. Most of my runs are 3 hours to delivery then 1.5 hours on duty not driving unloading (have to pallet jack all pallets to rear of truck and reload empty racks) then three hours back.

    On occasion I have three trailers a day. Do I need to flag a pretrip for each? Or just check them over and be on my way? Now I know I have to show each trailer on my logbooks front page, but what about on the back of my log when I do my end of day post trip? I know it says Trailer(s) but do I just post trip the last trailer?

    I read this forum and it just made me think. Got my brain going everywhere. :biggrin_2554: Thanks
     
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  3. Captain Canuck

    Captain Canuck "Captain of the Ship"

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    Honestly I'm not sure what the correct technical answer is, but if I am on the same truck/trailer combo, I only log the pre-trip each day... 15 minutes. My reasoning: I do a pre-trip each day, and end the day with the same truck and trailer I started with. I go to bed. In the morning, I get up and do my pre-trip. Does it really make any difference whether or not I do a post-trip if I'm just inspecting again in 10 hours without having gone anywhere?
     
  4. honor roll

    honor roll Road Train Member

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    Ask LogsRus she is the best log lady around she knows all the answers
     
  5. ssbowles

    ssbowles Heavy Load Member

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    The preceding iformation is the sole opinion of the poster, as is not intended as legal advice. No safety personnel were harmed during the forming of this opinion.:biggrin_25520:
     
  6. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    What people are starting to forget is the log is a legal document. If you get into an accident you can bet there's going to be some legal authority going over your book. If it's not filled out correctly it goes to the way you conduct your business and how you drive the truck. They look at it this way. If you're not even keeping your book up what kind of inspection or repairs can we expect that you'll done. A good book can carry alot of weight. It shows professionism and they will listen to you just a little closer. It's best to show 15 minute pre-trip and at the end of the day 15 minute post trip. If you're new and it takes you longer then log it longer. It's good to get into a habit or routine, that's so you wont miss anything.
     
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  7. Teamdotson

    Teamdotson Light Load Member

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    Yeah I log it as I do it. I am local driver. I get home everynight I never come close to running out of hours. So that is not an issue. I have thought about going OTR again so thats why I am asking.

    At the end of my day I usually sit around BSing for about an hour or so after getting back. I log a 30 minute post trip with end of day paperwork, etc.

    15 minute pre trip in am. 15 minute drive time to get fuel (even though it only takes me 5 minutes to get to gas station) and 15 minute fuel up.
     
  8. Baack

    Baack Road Train Member

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    According to the book the reason you do a post trip inspection is to give repair time to fix the problem before your ready to hit the road
     
  9. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Which is one of the reasons that I feel the post trip inspection is not as important as the pretrip to an OTR driver. There is no repair to have time to fix the problem available.
     
  10. Lurchgs

    Lurchgs Road Train Member

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    Lol - took me a sec to re-parse that so I could understand it. Yeah. I'm in the back of beyond, post trip shows a shut-down problem. How many here think Repair is gonna show up at 02:00 and fix my problem? How many here think they'll show up in the NEXT DAY and fix my problem?

    Still, I don't think I'll take sides on the 'more important' issue.I WILL weigh and say that the pre-trip is the more URGENT.

    As for when I drop/hook... I don't do a full pre-trip. That's silly. I've already checked the tractor once today, why do I need to do it again? Connect, check trailer, flag trailer inspection, drive
     
  11. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    I have been DOT'd and my logs looked at many times. I have never recorded the post trip other than to flag it. The pretrip is where I spend the time on it. DOT laws such as this were made for when the truck sat in a yard at night.
     
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