I have to ask is this legal?

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by Gunner75, May 18, 2016.

  1. sphlaxter

    sphlaxter Bobtail Member

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    To make the discussion a little more lively, what would you think if a Motor Carrier put the vehicle out of service for unsecure load, citing insufficient blocking/bracing. Would that be a fair application of officer discretion in your view?
     
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  3. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Crosswise = Suicide (eye to the side)
     
  4. Bean Jr.

    Bean Jr. Road Train Member

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    I see what the problem is. In the diagram, they swing the coil 90° from the picture above it. On the truck are two suicide coils. The diagram showing that you are not allowed to cross chains still is suicide, although it looks shotgun compared to the two one the truck.
     
  5. Airborne

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    There is two that I can see myself on that load.
     
  6. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    That is not a adequate loading. The pockets are not wrapped. ( I never had to do pockets like that, I wrap them.) otherwise the Ravens I had had dedicated chain hooks on the deck edges making for a very strong powerful securement.

    No rubber conveyor belt material under that coil. That steel is going to get damaged by the sharp wood under them. There is no 45 degree bevel on the wood under the coil. I don't think there is any strap iron with 45 degree triangles at the end under the wood to hold them where it is during braking and acceleration. Spreader bars...

    The chain is barely working limit legal for that coil. It the pockets that will snap first.

    There is not enough chain. I don't know the weight of that monster but would have tossed on 6 more chain. I probably would run out of pockets before I ran out of chain because the pockets are too far away.

    That rub rail wont be any help. It's horribly weak. Peel right off.

    Finally tarping that would be a problem.

    Nothing about this load brings any pleasure. It's a problem.
     
  7. 51.50

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  8. 51.50

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    We went through a few changes with the chp and their requirement for coiled steel.
    First the coil had to be braced on the dunnage, not allowed to touch the deck.
    Then the coil must touch the deck, the dunnage secure.
    Then the coil must touch the deck but could not rest on the frame rails. So we carried thin sheets of plywood to lay on the deck so the coil didn't rest on the frame rails. No one used outside frame trailers to haul coils. This was during the 1980's through 1991 during which time I was sub hauling for the house carrier at U S Steel Pittsburgh calif.
     
  9. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Road Train Member

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    wow a 7 month old conversation, I don't care about any of what you wrote there my question which you never did answer was about hooking a hook back to the chain. You said you can't I want to know where it says you can't.
     
  10. 51.50

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    I will have to find my CFR book and look it up. It could be a rule unique to calif Hwy patrol. I think it was because if the chain became slack, the hook could slip free and the chain become loose as in disconnected compared to going through a stake pocket and hooking to the rub rail
     
  11. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Road Train Member

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    You presented it as an absolute rule which would by the opposite of most trailer manufacturers and every D ring I've ever seen. I don't think you'll find that rule but I'll wait.
     
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