Mechanical vs Hydraulic Goose Neck trailers.

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  1. Oxbow

    Oxbow Road Train Member

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    I was thinking that mounting a big battery like that used on the old D8s on the neck, and then keeping it fresh with the hotline on the 7 way plug could work. I use that wire for my rear flashing amber lights, but I could consolidate the brown and black marker light wires to free up a wire in the 7 way, or just add another small plug to the trailer.

    In other words, instead of using the tractor electrical power to run the motor one would be relying on the battery, but would be able to keep it charged off the tractor.
     
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  3. m16ty

    m16ty Road Train Member

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    We had our 35 ton Dynaweld and really liked the way the neck worked but were looking for a 50 ton. We looked at Dynaweld and Fontaine, which use the same setup. The only bad part about the Fontaine is the hooks stuck out past the end of the trailer. That works ok as long as you are loading something that has a wide enough track to straddle the hooks but if you haul a small dozer or something they are in the way and you have to run up over them. As I said, Dynaweld uses the same setup but the hooks are set back into the trailer more so not to protrude out the front.

    We ended up ordering a new 50 ton Dynaweld but while we were waiting on it the owners of the company died in a plane crash. They never recovered and went out of business. That's when we went out and bought the Talbert.

    Originally, all manufactures that I know of either used the hook and bar setup (Fontaine) or the pin and loop setup (Talbert) on their NGB trailers. I would say both were patented (I'm pretty sure Talbert held the patent on theirs) and all other manufacturers had to pay to use their patent. One would think the patents have run out by now. Now there are other designs but they are all pretty much variations of the original two.

    Then you have the ground bearing setups. They are pretty much just a manual neck with a big cylinder that raises the neck up and down. They can get you by but don't work very well IMO.
     
  4. UltraZero

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    Hold on. Did I see solar charging system on the Honda Motor to keep the battery charged???

    Also, with regards to the mag chloride, is there a way to protect the honda motor/connections? Is is my understanding that the motors are usually tucked away inside of some kind of housing so they can't get
    stolen/removed easily?? If so, is there a way to put a tarp over the motor while in the compartment?/
     
  5. cnsper

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    On the jeeps we had canvas bags made to cover the motors.
     
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  6. johndeere4020

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    No I think he was talking about a solar cell to charge batteries on a Keen trailer to run the hydraulics.
     
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  7. johndeere4020

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    Did it help?
     
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  8. cnsper

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    So far they start every time.
     
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    I use an insulated cover on mine in winter with a cinch cord.
     
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  10. Mack427

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    Dynaweld has had quite a history past decade Pitts owned them for some time and copied them now Dorsey owns them but now Dorsey owns them you can get a new Dynaweld but its a pitts with a diffrent name
     
  11. m16ty

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    Another thing I forgot to mention about the Talbert. The neck height setting lacks some to be desired also. What you have is pins that slide out and rest on the top of the neck. You can raise it by adding blocks between the pins and the neck but with the pins resting on the neck still isn't low enough on some loads where every inch counts. In the lowest setting, the front of my trailer is still 12" off the ground. Most other trailers have multiple neck height settings from dragging the ground to a couple of feet clearance.

    Don't get me wrong, Talbert makes some tough trailers. I've had 120,000lb on a 50 ton trailer, it still had camber in it, and the neck lifted it like it was empty. I just don't think they have the best design when it comes to necks, workable but there are a lot better designs out there.
     
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