After more than a year driving automatic, going back to 10 speed manual...

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by windsmith, Jun 20, 2016.

  1. MagicTaters

    MagicTaters Bobtail Member

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    ??????? Maybe if I use unnecessary question marks you'll get it????????

    The other part of the equation is he is going from an auto to a manual trans.
    The lag is just an annoyance in the auto, in the manual timing the lag with your shifting is important and can take a few tries to get the hang of.

    But I think by now the op has probably grasped what I'm saying even if you haven't and I have no more desire to keep typing in circles so have a nice day snowwy, I've got work to do.
     
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  3. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    What does driving an auto vs. a manual have to do with driving a CNG truck?
    Your point is entirely moot.
     
  4. MagicTaters

    MagicTaters Bobtail Member

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  5. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    snowwy, a CNG engine does not respond to throttle inputs the same way that a diesel fueled engine does. With a diesel, as soon as you move the throttle in either direction, your RPM begins to change instantly.

    The CNG engine has a throttle plate, electronic fuel controller, one injector, and uses a gaseous fuel, not a liquid like diesel. You can't just toss fuel into the engine like you can with a diesel and expect it to burn. The computer has to get the fuel mixture JUST right for the operating conditions at that moment. It also has to account for the time it will take for the fuel to enter the engine once it's injected into the intake air stream.

    That's a bit of a complicated explanation, but the reality of it is that when you 'mash the gas' on a CNG truck, you might get the result you want, and you might not. Same with letting up on it. Sometimes the fuel controller will hold a small amount of torque on the engine so that the turbo won't spool down too quickly and cause a backfire. Which means that you're not going to be able to float gears as easily.

    A CNG powered truck is a whole different animal compared to a diesel.

    I actually did put about 5K miles on this truck before it was mothballed for quite some time while Cummins, Volvo and Agility worked through whether or not a design flaw (and whose design error) caused one of them to burn to a crisp while under load. Those issues were resolved a couple of weeks ago, and I got the green light to drive it again.
     
  6. drvrtech77

    drvrtech77 Road Train Member

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    is comprehension an issue?
     
  7. striker

    striker Road Train Member

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    Great, now in addition to shifting gears, he'll be pedaling as well

    IDK, it's been so long, I need to find a new teacher
     
  8. JPenn

    JPenn Road Train Member

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    I'll keep an eye out for ya... fellow CNG pilot here, except none of ours have manuals (Allison or Eaton Ultrashift). What size tanks do you have, only getting 200ish miles between fills? Granted, we haul much lighter freight usually, but our smallest truck (115 DGE tanks with an ISL-G) still can go 400ish. Our tandem axle tractors either have 155, 160, or 170 DGE tanks, and we can comfortably make 500-600 mile round trips on a fill-up.
     
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