Starting a small fleet

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  1. rzl-dzl

    rzl-dzl Medium Load Member

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  3. iRookie

    iRookie Light Load Member

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    Sounds like you've already answered your own question. j/s
     
  4. Toronto Trucker

    Toronto Trucker Bobtail Member

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    Prarie Boy,

    Not doubting you or your experience at all. Just trying to be optimistic...

    So are you suggesting that buying trucks and hiring drivers while being a lease operator will not be profitable? I've been told it's less of a risk financially when compared to being an owner operator (getting contracts/loads and paying for plates, insurance etc).

    I do agree that simply driving for a carrier or owner operator is financially viable and once you turn the engine off you're not having to look after the truck mechanically.
     
  5. belowspeedlimit

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    I do hope you tuck enough money away to pay for an engine and enough to keep the lights on while your truck is in the shop not earning. And three weeks later you need to do it all over again to replace the transmission.
     
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  6. Yves kanevil

    Yves kanevil Medium Load Member

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    I have never been a lease operator but was also told years ago when starting that trucking was no good and there was no money to be made by many who had failed. Funny how my father and grandfather made and still make a great life doing it and being good at it. Now a days with fuel prices and overall costs being high it is much harder than the past but when properly ran a business can still be profitable. I may not have millions in the bank but I do live comfortably and never need to work to live. I chose jobs that I see profit to be made and do them. The lease operator route seems like and easier route and maybe less profitable than and owner op but also comes with much less headaches.
    My grand father always told me to try something for yourself if you truly believe that's what you want to do. listening to others is not always the wisest because what doesn't work for them doesn't mean it won't work for you and he started trucking in 1949 when horses were being phased out of forestry until he passed in 2006 at age of 74. Funny thing is about a year before he passed we had a good conversation one night having a couple of beers and told me that even though profits were less than 50 years prior he still truly would not have changed careers if it were at all possible looking back on it all.
     
  7. Toronto Trucker

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    Yves,

    I really appreciate your comments. It's nice to hear words of encouragement. As for the lease operators making less... I can live with that for now... until I can grow to the point where I can confidently knock on doors to discuss contracts opportunities. One day... hopefully. Until then, it's one truck at a time. I do know it's difficult to find and retain good drivers who are willing to work and will respect the owner operator and its equipment. So far I've been lucky with my driver (he's got a great work ethic) and as for my first truck... other than the typical costs of maintenance, I haven't had any mechanical issues... knock on wood. Which reminds me... know of any good deals on tires?
     
  8. Yves kanevil

    Yves kanevil Medium Load Member

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    Hmm. I use much different tires than you in my application. I run Goodyear g177 on pretty much everything but steers. I don't mind paying for quality tires because cheap Chinese tires don't last with the weights I average.
     
  9. Yves kanevil

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    In my experiences if you have a good driver that respects your truck and makes you money keep him happy. Pay him good with occasional little bonuses. Make him feel valued. Drivers like that can make you money and key to growing a company
     
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  10. Toronto Trucker

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    I agree. I pay my driver more than what the company drivers are earning... so after I pay his wage, fuel and put aside WSIB and maintenance... he's actually making more then me. Guess that's the way it goes. I've been told the revenue will come when more trucks are added to the fleet (along with maintenance expenses).
     
  11. Skinny P

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    I say go get the second truck and immediately hire a driver. Remember by doing this you will double your Net profit. If you drive you will lose focus on the goal of growing your business. And when you look for a lease partner, remember they are not all created equal. A lot of guys just go with whoever they see first instead of doing research and getting in the right spot. Because getting $0.91 pm + FSC can sound awesome until it puts you in the poor house. But if you would have kept looking you might have found the golden company that $1.40 pm and you are profiting from day one. I say "ABS", Always Be Searching. Searching for better revenue splits, searching for cost savings, and searching for a better deal.

    And remember no Millionaire has ever said "can't", they often try until they succeed. Plus, I always say why would you take advice about owning a fleet from someone who doesn't own a fleet? Or, take advice about making a fortune in trucking from someone who doesn't have a fortune and has been working for longer than you have been alive?
     
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