The way you are handling the situation is very admirable. I would've ran off to a higher paying OTR carrier with my shiny new free CDL in hand after failing the tanker thing, but you did what you thought was right and stuck with the same company who provided you with the initial CDL training.
I didn't have a pleasant training experience either. I was never yelled at, but I felt that the trainer and I didn't have a clear path of communication. Yes, for some guys, the skills "click" easier than for guys like you and I.
If you choose to go out with a second trainer, I hope that it goes well. If not, no worries, there are many other companies to choose from. You're smart to not sign a "revised" contract.
Failed Tanker Pre-Screen, Need Advice on Contract....
Discussion in 'Schneider' started by El Viajero, May 30, 2016.
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Thanks. I am looking at other carriers. I don't know if they will try to hold me to the contract. I am not sure about it and nobody wants to tell me. I will have to call my recruiter as I was not sure what my new rate of pay is and what is going on with regards to my contract. I do believe she said she would send me another contract but I know not to sign it. I feel like I fulfilled my obligation to them in regards to the contract as they did tell me there would be a Pre-Work Screen Physical but they did not tell me what it consists of until a week before they sent you to orientation which might be what I tell them. I also do not feel that I should have to purchase a kingpin lock and we are not informed until after we sign the contract that they want us to purchase a kingpin lock for $60.00 from them.
It seems unfair to have us sign the contract them inform us of these new requirements upon us. My friend who drove me to the facility in Pennsylvania or training, the day before I posted this, is miserable. He has had one actual day off in that time and has been driving their tankers around as is still in training for them. He has been driving their tankers to their customers for awhile now and is only getting paid $80.00 (which is taxed) a day which is causing him to fall behind on his bills. He is also tired of working 10-12 hour days for this low pay. Both him and I feel they are taking advantage of his student status and working him a lot since they are not paying him the same as a regular tanker driver. He is getting very frustrated and angry with the way they are treating us. He hates the tanker driver requirements and the crazy amounts of training they are putting him through as the physical requirements are taking their toll on him. (He is 61 years old.)
We will see but he is also under contract I believe and we are both going to review the contract to see what we can do. I told him he might be better off failing some of their tanker test and transferring to dry vans since it will be easier on him physically and he will not have to worry about wearing a spaceman outfit or breathing in the chemicals. I was told he struggled while in CDL school with some things (he was in the class behind me so I don't know much about his driving) but he seems to be doing well. I know he said he is struggling a little bit with the driving but I think he would be much happier if he was not stuck with the tankers. They sent him to Detroit for training instead of Gary, Indiana which is much closer to his home and would allow him to go home nightly. It seems like they are just jerking him around as well.
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They're not jerking your friend around. There are a limited number of TEs available, so they sent him to where they had a trainer. Had he been put with a Gary based driver he might have spent the whole time on the road and not seen Gary again until he was dropped off. It all depends on what accounts the TE runs.
In terms of pay $80 a day is crap pay but they're not taking advantage of the low pay to maximize profits. Training trucks tend to do lower miles as the trainer spends time working with the new hire instead of just getting the job done. Had I just done the work today I would have been done two hours earlier. Once he goes solo, then yeah they're using low wages inexperienced drivers to maximize profits. During training he's just seeing the reality of the job.
Not trying to be mean, but new drivers need to do their due diligence before signing on. 61 is pushing the limits on getting into a potentially high physical demand job. The PWS is all over the Schneider jobs site and is mentioned in almost every new driver thread in the Schneider sub forum on TTR.
Trucking isn't easy, and can be a brutal adjustment from other careers. There is a lot to learn, habits to unlearn, and a lifestyle to adjust to. Every time I've gotten a new job the first few months are really hard as I learn the ins and outs, personalities, etc. Wherever you end up will have a significant amount of similarities. It may feel easier because you've gained a fair bit of experience.
I had a second week with a TE guy a few months ago. His previous TE is a great teacher - regularly getting high reviews, has a high retention rate, etc. My retread swore I was a much better trainer than his first, that the way I did things made more sense. I tried telling him it was mainly the fact he was seeing things for the second, third time that made the difference.
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Schneider would probably put you both in dry van running teams together.
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if the drivers requested you mean.
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Yes, they would have to request it.El Viajero Thanks this.
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I don't think I would want to go over the road with him. If prefer to be solo as it gives me more room in the truck.
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. We're friends but not that friendly.
So they put me in automatic truck and about 90% of my problems are gone. Now I just need to watch my turning and improve my backing.
I'm not sure if they are going to keep me as I'm being kept in the dark about what is happening next. They want to send me out on the road with a driver who has an automatic truck but they also might just have me stay here. It's frustrating as I had planned to be at home this week which helps out my dad and mom. My mom needs a caretaker because she is virtually blind and she is on dialysis. We are still looking for a caretaker and it is really hard on my dad as he is working full time. I don't know what's going to happen but I am trying to stay positive and see what is going to happen.
I wrote a letter about my TE and gave it to his boss as I realized it's not fair to future students he takes out on the road if he behaves that way.Thull, jakecat22, milehunter43 and 1 other person Thank this. -
They won't do anything if you don't say anything. As far as they're concerned, you passed your road test and are a working driver now. The people in the office have so much on their plate, that's just how it is unfortunately. If you need more training, let them know, if you have home time coming up, remind them..
Just don't hit anything
go out and look if you're not sure...don't worry if you're holding other people up.
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