Log Retention Question

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by LostinTransition, Jun 29, 2016.

  1. LostinTransition

    LostinTransition Bobtail Member

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    Hi,

    I've read through the regulations and know that it is a drivers responsibility to submit completed daily logs with 13 days of their completion to their company, and that the company is obligated to retain those logs for a minimum of 6 months.

    My question is, what happens when that company has failed to retain those records of logs. Can the driver be penalized along with the company, or does this fall solely on the backs of said company?
     
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  3. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    Company problem, not the driver’s.
     
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  4. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    After 6 months those logs go into a storage trailer to eventually be disposed of by fire however long it takes to fill trailer with paper logs.

    It's not your problem Driver. It's the company vs DOT.

    Tell you what. Hold on to your logs a year at home. If nothing happens, throw them away. I still got logs from freaking 31 years ago. Just have to remember to toss them moldy things when I get back there some day to bury my parents.
     
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  5. tucker

    tucker Road Train Member

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    Actually, your company should keep your logs for only 6 months ,
    If they get an I house audit, the officers can look at any logs no matter how old, so why keep them and risk them finding a mistake?
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    Now for you, if you're an OTR driver and are claiming the per diem deduction, you want to keep your logs for at least 7 years, in case you get audited and they'll wasn't to see you weren't home and the log book will prove it,
    I'm on Qualcomm elogs and I download my logs about 3 times a year, before they delete them.
     
  6. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    We did take deductions and yes we kept the logs those 7 years, see where I forget stuff? TY Mr Tucker. It was not too long ago before we disposed of the logs out of our closet at home. And good riddiance. I recall going over them and they told a story of really intense weeks chasing after loads that threaten accounts. Like a great big endless chinese firedrill. I would not want DOT going over them to see if there is 1700 miles or more in a 24...
     
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  7. SLCTrucker

    SLCTrucker Medium Load Member

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    All my logs end up in my Tax box for the year, If you take the deduction for per diem you should keep the logs with tax info for proof.
     
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  8. bretts

    bretts Bobtail Member

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    If a company fails to retain the logs for 6 months the company is fined. If a driver fails to turn in logs the company is still held responsible but we may investigate why the driver did not turn them in. On rare occasions we may fine the driver for failing to turn in logs if the company can demonstrate they repeatedly requested them and the driver failed to provide them. Ex. Driver quits and as a big F* You to the company doesn't turn in his paperwork. In that case we may hold the driver responsible for failing to submit within 13 days. But it would be very rare generally speaking to issue a driver a fine for failing to submit.
     
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  9. LostinTransition

    LostinTransition Bobtail Member

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    Ok, thanks for the insight and information everyone. It's help clear things up a lot.
     
  10. BUMBACLADWAR

    BUMBACLADWAR Road Train Member

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    Are you company driver?
     
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