Far as I can tell all motor carriers encourage their recruiters to stretch the truth and say what the driver wants to hear,anything to sell the driving position.They probably have a poster in their cubicle that says there's a sucker born every minute.Sad companies have to use trickery to get drivers.
Recruiters all lie?
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38 cents per mile would be $950.
.38 cents per mile would be $95.
That decimal place at the front makes all the difference.
It's due to the way that the people writing the ads think, they think of .38 as 38/100 of a dollar, which it is, but then immediately follow ".38" with "cpm" so that it reads ".38CPM" which is 38/100 of one cent, not one dollar. 38cpm is NOT the same as .38CPM. The first says "38 cents per mile" while the second says ".38 cents per mile" which is slightly more than 1/3 of a cent per mile
It would be like someone walking up to a driver and saying "I'll pay you one-third of a cent for every mile that you drive for me. So for every 3 miles you drive, I'll give you one penny."
Of course,nobody pays like that, but it just drives me nuts whenever I see ads written like that It would be more acceptable to state $0.38 CPM or just 38 CPM. -
As a recruiter and wife of a truck driver, I can tell you "There is NO NEED to LIE." If the driver does not get into that truck, recruiters working 100% commission do not get paid. I rather have the referral verses lying because truckers to not hesitate to walk out of an orientation. Good truck drivers are NOT desperate. I rather think the recruiter did not conduct due diligence in submitting. Hence, uninformed! Lots of reading material from a carrier leads to misinformation-I have seen this rookie mistake countless times. Good luck out there, Keep trucking, and please be safe out there!!!!
I have never worked directly for any particular carrier. I recruit on appx 10 out of 33 available carriers for us. Hence, I say again, "There is no need to lie."White_Knuckle_Newbie Thanks this. -
So you are claiming you do not lie?
So please explain to the jury how "lots of reading material from a carrier leads to misinformation, " yet in any other context, intentional misinformation is considered a lie and this isn't?Dumdriver Thanks this. -
Recruiters lie. They want your body and soul. Once you are in orientation and by some miracle at the Parting of the sea to cross over into the wonderland of driving a big truck long enough to be hit with several truths and realities once your joy wears off.
When I talk to a recruiter I tell him I don't want to hear the sales talk. I want answers to three specific questions. Equiptment, idle policy and so forth.
Payroll, how much a mile?
Where do we run?"
Everything else is bull. Part of the great culture of trucking Yours to discover to joy or sorrow.White_Knuckle_Newbie Thanks this. -
I said I rather believe recruiters are misinformed. I said I rather believe recruiters deliver misinformation. It is much easier to believe misinformed verses a recruiter just flat out lying. Where does lying get you as the recruiter? NO WHERE. As stated, in this market, "drivers will walk out of orientation." My husband has literally walked out, some of his friends have walked out, and lord knows I have spoken with drivers that have literally walked out.
Most drivers are seasoned enough to know when the dots, the numbers do not align. Hence, a driver will curse you out while walking out the door and NOT think twice about it.
Therefore, "There is no reason to tell a lie." Surely the truth shall be revealed and who wins? NOBODY.
Anyone and everyone has the capacity to tell a lie, that is a gimme. Recruiters are NOT immune to anything.
I rather keep the relationship, get the referral, and make my next placement 2x removed. If not with the driver, with the referral and I can't get that with lies-that should be the logic of all recruiters. Yes we know it is not!!!x1Heavy Thanks this. -
Schneider really gets a hard time , and has for the long time that i've been driving too. Pumpkin truck, and a few other I won't mention. LOL. Buttttttt,,, as far as a company to work for they are a really good one to do so. If you can handle the slow trucks ( but in all honesty speed isn't where you make money in the trucking industry, keeping your butt in that left seat is), you'll make a real good living there as long as your willing to put in the work. Job security, and a pay check that wont bounce or have to chase someone to get it goes a long way for me. The options for lateral moves to either a local, dedicated, whatever are unequaled. I don't work for schneider, nor have i ever worked for them, i get nothing out of saying this stuff other then trying to help out. Good luck !
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I had a dear friend who ran for Pumpkin early in his time after discovering the joys of riding my 18 wheeler so to speak on a introduction ride.
Pumpkin and friend parted ways in a situation I would attribute to a act of god. A Blizzard buried his entire rig past the top of the trailer in drifts during one of our early 90's blizzards. He spent a day shoveling that. Anyway...
3 weeks after he left that truck and pumpkin, the tractor suffered a catastrophic failure in both front end and total frame break causing it to flip onto it's roof pulling the trailer wheels to the sky and scattering the load about.
I think to this day, this friend has died when his truck died and from that day forward he has a life given to him by a God not ready to talk to him just yet. -
That of course is a belief. Much like the belief a used car salesman always tells the truth. But in this age of 100% turnover in the trucking industry what motivation does anyone, including a recruiter, have to be more informed?
Obviously if your making a commission or filling a quota your getting a paycheck.
Some are smart enough to. Some have the courage to, but a lot don't. Which is the key to this industry. The goal of many trucking companies it to harvest the new or naive driver that has not experienced the lies that perpetrate this industry.
Most aren't seasoned at all. This is an industry with 100% turnover. People come to this forum everyday that should have walked out the door long before they did.
Not all recruiters are you. Not all recruiters work on the same business model you do. Again, saying a recruiter has no motivation in lying is like saying a used car salesmen has no motivation in lying and therefore never does it. Now how true is that?White_Knuckle_Newbie, Tina1 and x1Heavy Thank this. -
Idle Policy. Funny. The last discussion I had about idle policies, lead to one major carrier. SWIFT. Funny, but very important.x1Heavy Thanks this.
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