Automatic blood pressure monitors are trash! AVOID AT ALL COSTS!

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by averagedude, Jul 28, 2016.

  1. averagedude

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    So I took my DOT physical and it showed 190/110! The guy didn't understand why it was so high and thought his machine was broken, so he told me to get it checked at the pharmacy down the street because he would be issuing no card for readings that high. When I go to the pharmacy, there was no BP machine, so I asked the pharmacist if they have one. They had an automatic BP monitor on their desk, so he sat me down and checked. It came to 185/110! He said that can't be right, so he will check again in 5 minutes and sure enough...... 185/110. Stated I need to go to the hospital because those are extremely high levels. Started getting nervous now and thought maybe I should go to the hospital, but I wanted to be sure the reading was correct so I ended up buying an all in one BP monitor from the store and it got good reviews. Went home, calmed down and tried it out...... It showed 177/104.

    So I went ahead and went to the hospital like the guy at the pharmacy suggested and the doctor checked with a MANUAL bp monitor and what do you know........122/73. Told her she must have made a mistake and she said she's been doing it for years and it's extremely accurate, but said just to make sure, lets check it in 10 minutes. So I wait and she checks it again. 121/72

    I was livid. What a joke auto's are. Took that hunk of junk back to the store and got my money back.

    Went back to the place I got my DOT and requested he use a manual BP monitor as my readings showed normal. He went on about how his automatic monitor has been accurate for years and there was no need for both an auto and a manual. After some arguing, I ended up walking out without paying and got a 2 year card at another medical office by a an older competent gentleman that used a manual bp monitor and came to 121/73
     
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  3. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    I am trained in manual BP. Specifically by sight rather than theory and hearing although I go through the motions of using the ears so not to scare the patient.

    the lower reading 121/72 is very good Perfect. Most people need a minimum of 100/60 to be considered stable and supportive of life. Anything past say 140/100 is a danger zone, the readings you presented at 185/110 stood to be risk for death or worse. You would need to be checked out potentially.

    My pain doctor uses a computer tester and it's fairly close but some months it creates a crazy reading similar to yours especially when Im stressed due to levels of pain at 6 or beyond on a scale of 10. Accurate enough within reason. But they throw it out.

    Believe it or not, the maxium pressures are generated by enjoying a sex partner usually somewhere at 200/120 depending on age divided by decade of age the person is, the older, the lower the safe limits for a few minutes fun.

    Anything beyond 200/150 is a genuine medical emergency you must get to ER so they can knock it down asap. Or it's going to really hurt or kill you. You don't want to be a vegatable being fought over by family.
     
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  4. rachi

    rachi Road Train Member

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    Yeah, you got to watch out when getting a dot exam cause they use these cheap bp machines that are not accurate. And they always seem to error on the high side.
     
  5. walstib

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    I had that same problem and thought it was the doctor working for procedures or something. Every time I went for a DOT it was 150 to 180 over something. Every time I went to another doctor or a pharmacy it was 120 to 130 normal. I went back to the doctor and of course it was 150 again. I always had to sit there and wait maybe 30 minutes they would come back and check it again and it would miraculously be 139, legal. And every time I couldn't see the readout. I think there is a little bit of a racket there for procedures and prescriptions.
     
  6. Pmracing

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    Omron makes a reliable home unit. Bring it to your regular Doc and they can double check the calibration.

    Mikeeee
     
  7. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    I can assure you in many states like Arkansas that have a real time Narcotics tracker weekly there is no racket. In fact, the pain prescriber is limited to 100 patients max with which he can prescribe certain medicines such as used for rehab withdrawls for people who chronically abuse pain pills and must withdraw after they are stopped from using pain pills cold turkey for failing to stay on contract or caught doctor shopping to get more than 120 pills allowed each month. I think the law has changed to allow the prescriber to treat 275 souls each month now for those whose bodies forced them into withdrawl cold turkey after the tolerance accumulated. It's hard to describe.

    It's a sell to the devil sort of thing, some medicines like Xanax start off with .25 mg a pill 4 times a day which is enough to cause a normal person to be a Driving under influence. Progessing further towards large tablets as big as your thumb which is about 10 plus several times a day with the stipulation you cannot miss a dose more than 10 hours or risk heart timing trouble as your body withdawals. People get into trouble when they start abusing and run out early.

    It's not a racket you think of. Scheduled drugs II and III are handed out very carefully watched by DEA most especially all the way down to local law enforcement who happens to want warrentless access to patient medical records by schedule two and three drugs now. At the moment it's not legal.

    What it does do is cause other doctors like Dentists, Surgeons and ER doctors MOST especially... particularly them.. to view a pain patient as a criminal when they under go a procedure and these other doctors refuse to prescribe pain medicines usually for only a period of three days post surgery because that patient is already recieving pain pills and opioid tolerant. The really big 30mg surgery pain pills handed out for three days go to people who are NOT pain patients at all. They come back on the 4th day and beg for more to be told they cannot take more or addiction or dependance by the body kicks in.

    Here is why. You take a schedule II or III pain pill or IV injection. Your brain has a gate to your blood brain barrier. At that gate also resides Ninxes Receptors (Spelling?) which are the literal connections from your brain itself to all your 5 senses to the rest of the world we live in. Those receptors get covered up by pain medicine. Your body GENERATES millions upon millions over a few days of new receptors as your brain reconnects with your body and senses it craves.

    If you are abusing, your receptors will become super super sensitive and cause you to have tremors, throwing up, no sleep, sleeping on a cement floor being more comfortable than the bed (Don't laugh, been there) and all sorts of issues with the entire body as your system struggles to reduce the now over super sensitive mind connections going crazy for a period of 5 days for certain pain meds up to 30 days with methadone or other serious support to keep you safe. Once you get past the first week and stop puking and start calming down you will be ok.

    People have died cold turkey and it's a great loss.

    Me? I consider it a mercy that doctors allow me this treatment for the last of my days. But until then I share and teach what I can before I go.
     
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  8. walstib

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    I think you are talking about pain medication. I am talking about the blood pressure medication which have zero value on the black market or to addicts. But I agree, if we were talking narcotics.
     
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  9. x1Heavy

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    Well.. if you really want a racket, consider this.

    Leaving pain medicine aside. Look at the new drugs coming out versus the older drugs whose patents are being allowed to expire.

    Some medical conditions require the patient to endure thousands of dollars A MONTH in medication. Other conditions like Cancer we endured, hum that was a VA thing, they provided us with 7 injectors to boost wife's blood each chemo session at completion. Each one had a retail value of 18,500 dollars so times 7 you are looking at 100K close and times 12 chemo treatments which themselves approach a million of uncle sam's money.

    If that is not a racket I don't know what is. All I know is that we have had 10 good years together when half the vets in oncolongy only make it 5 years or less. I remember one in particular who was sent to Memphis VA saying they will drain ALL the blood out of him (Approx 6 gallons) and then wait a moment and pump in a equal amount of fresh donor blood in last chance gamble at life with about 10 days to live. I don't think I saw him again. So... who knows.
     
  10. walstib

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    There's all kinds of rackets, I was just trying to stay on topic.
     
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  11. averagedude

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    See the funny thing about it is I bought an automatic omron monitor. Gave me a very high reading.
     
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