Should we share our rates on loads ?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by freight-time, Aug 1, 2016.

  1. stayinback

    stayinback Road Train Member

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    Guys.......I love your target rates..Fairly reasonable.

    Look at freight right now!! Especially flatbed...... Customers Not shiopping, Brokers with minimal supply- Rates averaging $1.30-$1.80 per mile.

    Go to Kansas City with a Flat and Try Loading it Going East....See how far you get. Theres Nothing going on anywhere. Pretty Dead.
     
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  3. HaroldB

    HaroldB Bobtail Member

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    Yes too much info could get the load taken from you for just a little less. Sometimes less info is best
     
  4. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    After careful thought...

    I have a idea in total support of this Rate Sharing Community.

    If someone has a server, bandwidth and the necessary staffing they should absolutly begin to maintain a 24/7 Board nationwide to all truckstops, all Truckers and Companies interested in rates from anywhere to anywhere in real time.

    I am in total support of this concept and feel that discovering knowledge of who pays what and how little (Too #### cheap...) or too much... or fails to pay etc will introduce a new era in our Trucking Industry where there is accountability.
     
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  5. Hurst

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    I've said this joke at least 20 times,..

    Send 2 truckers into a house of prostitution and they will come out screwing each other.

    This is why there will never be a nationwide strike, there will never be a unified established rate scale for O/O's, there will never be an honored agreement that lasts more than a week.

    Truckers piss and moan about everything. The majority are unhappy or at the very least pissed off about something almost all the time. All you have to do is read the posts here on TTR and and watch how quickly things escalate or turn into a pack mentality over some of the dumbest things.

    Truckers used to be a very helpful bunch. More and more its every man for himself. The old days are never coming back.

    Hurst
     
  6. Hurst

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    The problem with this is that lets say a broker has 30 loads coming out of a shipper that needs to be moved. I can almost guarantee the last 3 trucks were paid more than the first 3 trucks.

    So in order for an accurate measure of rates,.. there needs to be a lot of information from behind the scenes that may never come to light. You'd need to be an undercover agent or secret spy to get that kind of information.

    Hurst
     
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  7. Dharok

    Dharok Medium Load Member

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    Like this idea. Pm me how we can make it a reality..
     
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  8. x1Heavy

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    After reading what Mr Hurst had to say, Ive backed off. He's right you will not get a common ground for this thing.

    Ya know, Rates for my loads as a company driver was such a big state secret in the company office. I once snuck past the night dispatcher into the one room no one was allowed in at all and read off one of the three printers sittng there holding a spreadsheet of rates paid that day to dispatched loads. Identified my unit number and Social and discovered a recent load I delivered paid around 2.65 a mile. I did some figures at that point before night dispatcher yelled at me to gtfo of that room. I never forgot that night.
     
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  9. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    You can rest assured that contract freight is averaging $3/mile for dry van.
     
  10. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    3 a mile in a contract situation. That's gravy train. Makes me wanna run out a buy a rig or three and hire drivers.
     
  11. Hurst

    Hurst Registered Member

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    I'd love to get in on some of that.

    I'm struggling just to stay above $1.90 - $2mi and I really have to stick to my guns to do it.

    On average I'm sitting 1 - 2 days a week in order to run at the rates I want. I'm not very good with math,.. but put some numbers together and in the grand scheme of things,.. I'm not really missing out that much by turning down cheap loads versus sitting and (Mostly) running at what I want.

    If someone could show me a better way to calculate this,.. breaking down costs into a matrix,.. fuel, maintenance,.. wear and tear,.. then personal time and labor,.. what would be more profitable. 2000 - 2200 miles a week at $2.25 mi average,.. or 3000 - 3300 miles a week at $1.85 average?

    My numbers show a higher net running less miles with higher rate. The gross is less.. but the net is more. Still not 100% sure if I am doing it right.

    Hurst
     
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