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Discussion in 'Interstate' started by jacolbyhud, Mar 5, 2016.

  1. jct3128

    jct3128 Light Load Member

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    Hw much you doing on that west coast
     
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  3. MicksRule

    MicksRule Medium Load Member

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    I came from Landstar. Rates are as good here as they are here.
     
  4. rachi

    rachi Road Train Member

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    Please everyone, dont come to cali, stay on the east coast!
     
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  5. MicksRule

    MicksRule Medium Load Member

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    Even when I run through Oregon, I never buy fuel there. California or Washington only. If you understand fuel taxes you already know, if you don't, pm with your number and I'll explain.

    Right now, I do a lot of CA, AZ, NV and UT. I never buy fuel in NV or UT because the fuel is to expensive. If I'm running I 10 in AZ, it's a good place to buy. If it's I 40, CA it is.

    Also, if any of you guys are still using your Comdata card for fuel, you're paying to much. I typically save $40-80 per fill over what you guys are paying. An example, I paid $1.912 per gallon at the TA in Tonapah, AZ 8/4. The cash price at the pump was $2.359 and you get 10 cents off that. You could have fueled at the Arco in Quartzite for $2.099.

    Any questions about this, pm your number with a good time to call.
     
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  6. jct3128

    jct3128 Light Load Member

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    Lol someone is stingy
     
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  7. thaistick

    thaistick Road Train Member

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    Rates suck on the west coast...... so many sub $1 loads, it makes my head hurt, let alone my bank acct!!! ;)
     
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  8. thaistick

    thaistick Road Train Member

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    I think you might have a flawed theory here, or I am missing something..... If the price of fuel is cheapest in Oregon vs CA or WA (less IFTA, and obviously OR has no IFTA) why would you not buy there. Regardless of where you bought the fuel or where you burned the fuel you still pay the same tax. However, in OR you just pay the tax at the end of the quarter vs CA or WA where you pay at the pump. OR is also different that you pay per mile ran in the state not per gallon, but the fact is still the same you pay for what you ran/burned in the state.

    It is important to buy fuel which is the cheapest less IFTA tax. Some states have higher taxes than others.

    Example
    State A - $2.50 per gallon including a .25 tax. $2.25 less tax
    State B - $2.40 per gallon including a .10 tax. $2.30 less tax
    Just looking at pump price, one would think State B would be the better deal, but in actually its State A.
     
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  9. thaistick

    thaistick Road Train Member

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    I found a post of someone who explained it better than I did. Thanks @double yellow.
    This is his copied post:
    Q: Where is fuel cheapest?
    A: Wherever the fuel price is lowest after subtracting IFTA (tax is $0.45 in CA, $0.445 in WA, 0 in Oregon).

    Q: How much IFTA will I owe or get refunded?
    A: IFTA is calculated based on your quarterly mpg and the miles you drove in each state. For example, if you drove the length of i5 and got 7.5mpg each state would get:

    CA (797 miles): 797 / 7.5 = 106.3 gallons burned in CA. Multiply that by the tax rate of $0.45 and you get $47.82.

    OR (308 miles): Oregon does not participate in IFTA so it does not matter your mpg. They charge $0.1638 per mile ($50.45)

    WA (277 miles): 277miles / 7.5mpg = 36.93 gallons. Multiply by the IFTA tax rate ($0.445 per gallon) and you get $16.44


    So essentially you owe a $48 toll every time you drive the length of i5 in California, $50 for Oregon, and $16 in Washington. Each state is owed that amount of money, regardless of where you fuel.


    Lets say you happened to buy diesel in California. You bought 184 gallons of diesel (1381 miles / 7.5mpg). In doing so in California, you paid $0.45/gal fuel tax at the pump ($82.86). But you only spent $64.26 of it (47.82 in CA & $16.44 in WA) so you will get an IFTA refund of $18.60. You will still need to file the Oregon weight distance return ($50.45) separately.

    Had you bought diesel in Oregon, you would have paid no tax at the pump, but at the end of the quarter you would still need to cough up $64.26 for the tax you owe on the diesel you consumed in CA & WA. And you would of course still owe Oregon $50.45...

    So that means the diesel price you pay in Oregon needs to cost $0.45/gal less than it does in California and $0.445/gal less than Washington in order for it to truly be cheapest.


    http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...asp-how-fuel-tax-and-ifta-works.316333/page-2
     
  10. MicksRule

    MicksRule Medium Load Member

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    I agree with you 100%, but you are missing something. I don't use Comdata.

    I hadn't looked at Oregon in over 6 months and I'm finding about a 10 cpg cost difference compared to most places in California.

    Prices today. TA in Coburg and Jubitz are both around $1.79 per gallon. However, there's a station in Buttonwillow at $2.13 and a station in Fontana at $2.23. Even the higher of the two is less expensive before tax at $1.78. Again, I don't fuel in Oregon.
     
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  11. MysticHZ

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    Or look at it this way .... at 7.5 miles per gallon you are paying $.06 pm to drive in CA. Reversing that for OR, the $.16 pm road tax translates to a $1.22 equivalent tax cost per gallon in fuel. To really get at the heart of it, fuel in OR needs to be $1.22 less the $.45 CA fuel tax for a total of $.77 per gallon cheaper than CA.
     
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