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The guy I was responding to mentioned tickets. You jumped in starting in on average speed for day and how to figure it. Only person in the equation to want to do that is the cop. Please, try to keep up.

 

VDO Road log can be set up with no monthly fee.

https://www.vdoroadlog.com

 

As to editing the ECM, we're talking O/O's who typically have full control over their hardware, right? Piggyback ECM's are nothing new on the automotive side, ECM's communicate using mostly standard protocols and interfaces (J1939, J1708, J1850). Why not a piggyback ECM to "edit" or rewrite the data from the actual ECM to the J1939 plug that the EOBR is plugged into? It isn't rocket science, and there are a lot of folks with IT backgrounds in trucks (I'm one). Boredom, freedom, or financial gain are excellent motivators for some interesting hackery.

For that matter, why not a completely compromised EOBR? The peoplenet tablet in my company truck is running Windows. I think that's a pretty sizeable vector for "creativity" right there.

 

OK then create a hack for it and show us how it is all done. Like I said, all it took to limit 90% of the company trucks out here to 62 mph was a simple password. 99.99999999999999% of those 62 mph trucks are running a top speed of 62 mph as the company intended. The other .00000000000000001% managed to steal a password and had the diesel doctor change the company settings. That is a hack but not really all that technically involved of a hack. I'd like to see one of you computer engineer truckers crack ELD's and make them as easily editable as paper logs but I'm not going to hold my breathe.

 

Check that, in Europe already, cops have a reader that plugs into the OBD port and instantly gives them roadside access to the ELD....

 

The ability for them to really clamp down with the ease of access to any and every little bit of info they want, plus practically no resistance to that sort of intrusion, is infinitely a more likely scenario in the future than some hacker giving any of us that wanted one an out.

 

cant i just have 2 eld logs or 2 ecm's in the truck or both

 

Haters 'gonna hate, and Hackers 'gonna hack. <<< " Shake it off " .... or not? >>>

Hackers Demonstrate How Easy It Is To Seize Control Of Big Rig Brakes And Accelerator

WIRED


In a disturbing new report, researchers showed just how easily hackers can attack the internal computer network of a semi truck to take control of the brakes, acceleration, or even the readout of the instrument panel.

Researchers Use Laptop To Take Control Of Truck
Cybersecurity researchers from the University of Michigan are preparing to share their findings at the Usenix Workshop on Offensive Technologies next week. They focused their attacks on a 2006 model semi truck that they were able to access with a laptop computer.

Hackers Say Trucker Are Easier To Hijack Than Passenger Vehicles
By connecting the laptop to on-board diagnostic ports, hackers were able to easily look up and replicate commands using the same J1939 open standard shared by a wide variety of heavy duty trucks. Because of the standardization among commercial vehicles, hackers were able to seize control of the truck’s systems with much more ease than a passenger vehicle, which would require them to tailor their cyber attacks to the make and model of the car.

Here’s What Hackers Were Able To Do
What is perhaps even more worrying than the ease with which the hackers seized control of a truck? Learning exactly what they can do. Researchers demonstrated the ability to:

• Engage the truck’s emergency brake without warning.
• Control the output and readings of dashboard gauges and warning lights.
• Fake a full tank of fuel when the actual fuel tank is nearly empty.
• At 30 MPH or less, they could disable the engine brake.
• Make the truck speed up against the driver’s will.

While researchers refrained from actually doing it, they also believe that they can totally destroy the engine of a truck.

The researchers pointed out that the attacks were made while a laptop was plugged directly into the OBD port, but they also say that a determined hacker could likely find a way in via telematics systems. Additionally, they say that newer trucks might not be so easy for hackers to manipulate.

Video Shows Hijackers In Action
The report comes with a series of videos demonstrating what the hackers were able to do.

In the video below, they make the truck speed up without assistance from the driver:

Hackers were also able to make the warning lights go haywire:

You can see how hackers were able to hijack the gauges in this video:

 

That reads like a bunch of scary nonsense that will never happen in the real world. Do you know how many trillions have been spent the past 15 years fighting backwards nomadic people's toting AK47's in the middle east over really the same kind of nonsense. You're more likely to win the lottery than have someone hack your truck's ECM or be the victim of a terrorist attack. Comon drivers you know how unlikely anything like that really is?

 

^^^^ Just following the thread and sharing some propaganda, man. Hopefully it won't be in MY lifetime if it EVER comes to fruition!!