Driving in areas you don't belong

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  1. AnthonyM757

    AnthonyM757 Light Load Member

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    No offense OP but you sound like a total wuss ..

    U need to get out of that echo chamber bubble you've been living in and stop being so paranoid by things you hear and see on TV and the radio
     
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  3. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Two questions here if I may.

    In what state did this take place?

    I assume you feared the possibility of a prison term if you had to defend yourself?
     
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  4. texasbbqbest

    texasbbqbest Road Train Member

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    Texas.

    And yes, even if it was a good shoot you have the legal (criminal and civil) part to go through. You'll more than likely be placed in cuffs (for responding officers safety) and taken in for questioning. I really didn't want to go through that but if I shot him I would have, and I was half a second away from it. I hope to never have to deal with that kind of situation again.

    I don't think people realize how serious it is. They are aware of it but until you are in a lethal force situation, you don't truly grasp it.

    My only saving grace would be that at the time (and still do) I had a good attorney that delt with cases specific to officer involved shootings.
     
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  5. MACK E-6

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    Well, that's why if you're a CCP holder, or even if you carry openly which Texas is becoming more accepting of, it's important to remember that you do NOT shoot to kill, but to stay alive and neutralize the threat.

    Aim for center mass, but once the attacker is on the ground or otherwise flees, they cease being a threat.

    Even police officers are bound by that.
     
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    texasbbqbest Road Train Member

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    Shots go wherever the gun is pointed at the time in close quarters, which we were. If it happens to kill him then you gotta live with it, but I'm going home at night.

    At the time all you think about is survival. I was fortunate my situation ended with no shots fired.
     
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    I was taught to never draw a weapon (gun) if you don't intend on shooting it.
    And then, shoot to kill.
    Period.

    Drawing the weapon is followed by shooting the weapon. They are not meant to be a threat, they are meant to kill something.

    And yes, I do have some experience in the area from working security at the Santa Clara County Transit District.
    Those areas around San Jose, CA could get pretty rough. People love to pick on buses and bus drivers it seems.

    I only had one very close call during those few years there. But if I hadn't been able to contain the situation and had to draw my revolver, the teenager that was threatening me with a knife would have been dead with one draw and shoot move.

    And I didn't draw that weapon just for that fact. I would have killed him.
    Stupid kid, daring me to pull my gun and shoot him as he was edging closer and closer to me waving the knife.

    I had it all on audio tape. (No personal video cams back in the 80's.)
    I wish I still had it.
     
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  9. clausland

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    The use of deadly force requires three elements to be deemed a "good" shoot....Does the assailant have the:
    • Ability to kill you (gun, knife, baseball bat, etc)
    • Opportunity (close enough to do it)
    • Intent (communicated or implied)
    Take out one of those elements, it's not a good shoot and you better get a good lawyer and shut your yap.....
     
  10. rocknroll81

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    Are you sure it's not the load dropped in there drawers?
     
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  11. MidwestResident

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    If I had a CDL and was an OTR or a LTL truck driver, I would NOT have a gun or any lethal weapon inside the truck at all.

    I would actually be less scared of the criminals than I would be of the authorities or law enforcement. My biggest fears would range from potential job loss to possibly doing time in the penitentiary for any "mishaps" that might occur with a gun or lethal weapon.
     
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