Logbook Question

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by TigerShark, Aug 25, 2016.

  1. Chasingthesky

    Chasingthesky Heavy Load Member

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    Nope. There's a DOT inspection mode on the app. Had to use it once already on a level 3 in SD. Just turned it on and handed my phone to the officer. No issues
     
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  3. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    Company I work for is too cheap to buy a printer. Plus I have no room for one lol.
     
  4. GreenMonster9669

    GreenMonster9669 Medium Load Member

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    I questioned KT about that when it started showing up. They responded that when the new ELD regulations go into effect, the e-log has to show your position not where you are, but relative to the nearest town of X population (I don't remember the number, but it's sizeable). So if you fuel up at the exit at Nowhere, NE the log might show you as 24 miles SW of Somewhere, IA. They went ahead and made the change in advance.
     
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  5. GreenMonster9669

    GreenMonster9669 Medium Load Member

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    KT can provide logs via email and fax. And for the officer's convenience, they provide a card showing the exact regulation saying that the ability to print a paper copy on the spot isn't necessary.
     
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  6. xsetra

    xsetra Road Train Member

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    On my paper logs I put where I loaded to where I deliver . The same for each day of the trip.
    If I have multiple loads. I use the load I put on first then change my locations the next day.
     
  7. Chasingthesky

    Chasingthesky Heavy Load Member

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    Well, after a lot of digging around, I found some rule changes and guidance to section 395.8 concerning record of duty status. It used to be that electronic signatures weren't recognized and the driver would have to manually print and sign the paper copy at the end of each day. That was amended in 2014 and electronic signatures are now considered valid. However...

    Question 28: May a driver use a computer, tablet, or smartphone (that is not an Automatic On-Board Recording Device) to create, electronically sign, and store the record of duty status (RODS)?

    Guidance:

    Yes. A driver may make manual duty-status entries to a computer, tablet, or smartphone program that is used to generate the graph grid and entries for the record of duty status (RODS) or log book, provided the electronically-generated display (if any) and output includes the minimum information required by §395.8 and is formatted in accordance with that section. The driver must sign the RODS (manually or electronically) at the end of each 24-hour period to certify that all required entries are true and correct.

    1. If electronic signatures are not used:
    • The driver must print and manually sign the RODS daily.
    • The driver must have in his or her possession the printed and signed RODS for the prior seven consecutive days (if required on those days).
    • The driver should be given an opportunity to print and manually sign the current day’s RODS at the time of the inspection.
    1. If RODS have been electronically signed:
    • At the time of an inspection of records by an enforcement official, the driver may display the current and prior seven days RODS to the official on the device’s screen.
    • If the enforcement official requests printed copies of the RODS, the driver must be given an opportunity to print the current and prior seven days RODS (if required on those days) at the time of inspection.
     
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  8. xsetra

    xsetra Road Train Member

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    Your last paragraph is going to be the source of many ticky tack tickets.
     
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  9. Chasingthesky

    Chasingthesky Heavy Load Member

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    Heh. Not like they didn't have plenty to work with before. As the saying going - if they want to find something, they will
     
  10. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    I would use the load's origin & destination. Where did you pick up your freight & where does it deliver?
     
  11. Riprap

    Riprap Light Load Member

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    Then you'd put a slash next to the original O&D locations

    Day 1 (loaded enroute)
    Origin: Tampa Fl
    Dest: Layton Fl

    Day 2 (deliver & reloaded)
    Origin: Tampa Fl/Salt Lake Fl
    Dest: LaytonFl/Orlando Fl

    Day 3 (loaded enroute)
    Origin: Salt Lake Fl
    Dest: Orlando Fl

    Day 4 (deliver & reloaded)
    Origin: Salt Lake Fl/ Ft Meyers Fl
    Dest: Orlando Fl/ Miami Fl

    Day 5 (loaded enroute)
    Origin: Ft Meyers Fl
    Dest: Miami Fl
     
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