Speed, Gears, Transmission......

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  1. thomas

    thomas Light Load Member

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    I have a question for all ya'll..... I have a 1999 Freightliner with a 60 series Detroit with a 10C and 3.90 rears. The truck is set at 430hp # 1800RPM's. My problem is at 74 mph it is topped out at the 1800 rpm's burning a ton of fuel. What is the best way to fix this? Gears? Transmission? Thanks for any help.
     
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    The easiest way is to drive slower, any engine at 1800 rpm uses lots of fuel, and your rolling and wind resistance are high at that speed
    If you want to get the rpms down while running that speed, you could regear it, expensive, or put in a 13 or 18 double over drive, also expensive.

    I have driven a truck with a 10 speed direct and 3.58 gears, runs about the same rpm at the same speed. If I slow down to about 68 mph and about 1650 rpm, it uses noticeably less fuel
     
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  4. SPIKE 64

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    I bet it pulls at those RPM's, If you do re-gear it to turn lower RPM's since its a detroit it will flat on it's face,My buddy has a 12.7 turned to 475, 10b trans. and 3.70's and at 70MPH he turns about 1475RPM's getting about 6.75 MPG's and it pulls good on flat roads but give him a little pull and it fall's.
     
  5. kd5drx

    kd5drx <strong>Master of Electronic Communications</stron

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    Then he needs to have it looked at. I put over a million on a Detroit 430-470 that turned 2100 and with a 13 over and 3.73 rears i got around 6.0 or 6.5 if i kept it at around 70 if i went over that i got around 5.5 but it never had a problem in the hills just drop out of over and keep the RPM around 1550 or 1600 and she pulled like a freight train he may have missed with the 10 speed to make it pull like it should.
     
  6. SPIKE 64

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    Well, consider yourself one of the few lucky one's that has one that pull's around here the O/O that are switching from Cat to Detroit are doing it for the fuel mileage . Im still sticking to my "yella" motor and averaging 6.75MPG's loaded W/80,000 LBS.
     
  7. HIDIVE

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    You could change the rear gear, but lose pulling power. or turn up the rpm's and burn more fuel. I happen to have a fl cutoff with air ride and geared 3.07 ratio that I changed plans and am not going to use. If you run south and are determined to scoot down the road that quick, change the rear gears.
     
  8. thomas

    thomas Light Load Member

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    Going from a 3.90 to a 3.07 would definitely drop the rpm's down!!
     
  9. thomas

    thomas Light Load Member

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    what do you want for the rears?
     
  10. droy

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    Another option is to find an OLD SCHOOL mechanic, who has a lot of tranny knowledge, and see if a gear swap can be done to yours. This entails swapping the 9th and 10th gears, somehow turning them around, making your last gear up toward the dash, and geared like a double overdrive. It makes a long jump to your last gear, but it might be your cheapest route. My dad had this done to many of his trucks back in the old days when trucks often had rear end ratios of 4.44, 4.33, and 4.11s.
     
  11. thomas

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    thanks for the info. I will have to do some research on that.
     
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