Paccar

Right now I'm driving a 2013 kw and I really like the truck but it will not pull going over an over what's up with the power it's a mx13

 

Couldn't tell ya Is it spec'd high enough for your application?

 

I'm not sure I'm going to have the mechanic check out the horsepower

 

I hear a lot of complaints about how they pull up a hill, too, but also, the trucks in question are geared pretty high - 3.08 for those with 9/10/13 speed manuals, 3.36 for the Rocky Mountain double trucks with 10 speed autoshifts (although the complaints don't come from them), 2.64 for line haul trucks with the 10 speed autoshift - all of them with .74 OD transmissions, and they run the 455 MX13.
Previous trucks included Kenworths with the ISX400 and 3.36s, a leased batch of Kenworths with the Gen 1 MX13 at... 435, IIRC, and 3.36, Volvos with the 450 D13 and 3.36s (this setup was also used for some Rocky Mountain doubles), and RMD trucks ran an ISX450 with 3.90s.

 

I have talked about this in other threads. You can make comparisons to Cummins all day long... They have similar power, similar life expectancy, etc... The BIG DIFFERENCE is when you are out of warranty. Paccar designed the MX engines to be in Cabovers (Europe). The air compressor, fuel pump, cam, injector rail, etc.. require the engine to be REMOVED FROM THE TRUCK to be replaced. Paccar engineers were brilliant when they designed these engines to go in cabovers because it only required the transmission be removed and you have full access to every gear driven part. The problem with our conventional trucks is that someone put a firewall directly behind the engine. If you have a simple air compressor failure or fuel pump failure, you'll pay $3-4,000 labor to replace them. A cam replacement will put you in the position I was in, spend $15K replacing your cam (then you might as well do the air compressor, fuel pump and injector rail at the same time to avoid removing the engine again in a year) you may as well buy an engine with 100K that was pulled from a wrecked truck, you can buy one for 15K. Or do what I did... Build a Cat!

 

100%. Luckily most of the Paccar / Peterbilt reps are pretty good - so long as customers aren't beating up the engines, are taking care of them properly with routine maintenance, and haven't done anything to cause the failure, it's not uncommon to get some help on out of warranty failures. I always say that Paccar / Peterbilt tends to be more generous on that than Cummins. I've seen them pay 100% of the cost on more occasions than I can remember. Cummins typically offers 75% of select parts and select labor..So if you have a DPF failure, you can expect 75% the cost of the DPF, plus maybe 75% of a few hours of labor, as an example.

 

You assume I would go to a Peterbilt or Kenworth shop.... I live in Phoenix AZ so thats not an option. You must not have followed my saga that nearly broke me. 6 months of throwing parts at my truck and finally Greg Hill (Paccar rep) admitted "sometimes we just can't fix a truck"...
You'll have to explain what you mean by "as long as customers aren't beating up the engines". How do drivers "beat up" a fuel injector, air compressor, or fuel pump? If any of those parts fail on a Cummins, its an hour or two labor, those same issues on a Paccar require an engine removal.

 

Not sure why it's not an option to go to a Peterbilt or a Kenworth considering there is both in Pheonix

http://www.rushtruckcenters.com/locations/location-search/1503-phoenix
http://www.inland-group.com/location/phoenix/

Regarding "beating up engines" - as in, not maintaining them, overspeed conditions, overheating them, etc. I never said you (or you, specifically) beat up anything, but so long as a driver isn't abusing the engine, they're pretty good at helping out on the costs.

& no, I did not follow anything regarding your issues, I come on here only to assist with warranty questions and other related stuff.

Also, I'm not sure why you keep saying you have to remove the engine for all of these failures..

 

None of the loggers where I grew up will touch a Paccar engine. ISX (or DD15/16 if they run a Star).