Log book

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by TH30, Dec 19, 2016.

  1. WiggleWagon

    WiggleWagon Light Load Member

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    In California, if the truck is stickered as commercial, such as a dually hotshot, and if it has the factory bed removed, you have to stop at a scale, even if you don't need a class a license to drive said vehicle.

    So it's like this. One guy has a truck and a 5th wheel trailer. It's his, factory bed is on it, no stickers of any kind, no need to stop at a scale. But the same guy with the same truck and trailer but with the bed removed (cab and chassis) working for a RV tow-away company hauling trailers for money now has to stop at the scale. Even if the weight for the class A license never becomes an issue. That is California anyway. Until the OP replies with some more details, we are all left guessing :confused:
     
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  3. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    People seem to forget that that 26,001 weight thing does not define a commercial vehicle. It defines what kind of Drivers License you must have to operate commercial vehicles over that weight rating. For the purpose of logging etc etc a commercial Vehicle is defined as any vehicle tagged as commercial that has a rated weight over 10,001 pounds. So yes if that scale says commercial vehicles you MUST enter a scale if your in a vehicle with a rated weight over 10,001.

    I agree with others that we don't have enough information to fully answer your questions. OTR you are going to need a logbook and a medical card. I don't know about anything intrastate or inside that 100 Air miles thing.

    Just a note to the OP. Don't screw around with this log book thing. Your risking a serious fine and being placed out of service. If I am understanding your question right you were most likely charged with what is called "form and manner" this means your logbook was not properly filled out. If you later see you will need one I suggest finding someone to give you a short logbook class.

    Edited to add that I am assuming the OPs truck weight is over 10,001 and under 26,001. If it is under 10,001 I can't answer because I lack a lot of knowledge with these pickup, tags and commercial trucks things intrastate.
     
  4. Ralphy74

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    100 air miles and must be local...once you are OTR you are required a log book
     
  5. Ridgeline

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    Just to add to this, a CMV here in the great state of confusion can be anything, weight doesn't matter but if you want to add weight into it, there are three different weights that they can go by, starting with 5500 lbs GVW and 8800 lbs can require a class C license to operate. On top of that, anything over 10k is used sometime to ticket people for a lack of logs. Amazing how many people think just because it is under 26k, you don't have to log.
     
  6. thelushlarry

    thelushlarry Road Train Member

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    I would have not stopped at the weigh station in the first place! Only bad things happen at weigh stations.
     
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  8. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    I am hoping you said that just to be funny. Not all states have the same requirements when it comes to scale entry. However I feel it is important to note in some places "blowing" a scale can cost a driver major $$$.
     
  9. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    Or have a medical card. I know a driver here in Virginia that got stopped in a small dump truck and asked for his medical card when the DOT cop noticed he did not have a CDL. That oversight cost him a ticket, tow and some storage costs. The DOT cop would not allow him to operate the truck, the way I heard it was the driver was afforded a chance to get driver with a medical card to come get the truck.
     
  10. wis bang

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    Non CDL exemption is 150 air miles, not the 100 air mile radius for a CDL exemption.

    We send trucks from NJ to the far end of Long Island. My CDL drivers need to log [over 100 air miles] but the non CDL drivers do not...

    The proper answer to the question 'Let me see your log book" is I'm exempt...

    OP may still need his Medical Cert over, I think, 18,000#...

    My non CDL truck has NJ non apportioned license plates and no IFTA sticker but does need a NY HUT decal...
     
  11. Moose1958

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    We don't know if he is per chance OTR or local. If he is OTR I actually think he might need Elogs. The medical card thing is ANY vehicle tagged commercial over 10,001. I posted a link to this a few posts back. Most general cops won't think of it and some DOT officers might just let you off on a warning to get one, but it is up to the cop.
     
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