Driver Comments Requested to Improve Parking

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Rocks, Dec 26, 2016.

  1. Rocks

    Rocks Road Train Member

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    The FHWA (Federal Highway Administration) is seeking opinions and ideas from the public (until tomorrow, 12/27 at 11:59 pm) on commercialization of rest areas in order to maintain the existing ones, open closed ones and allow for additional Rest Area Truck Parking.
    In order to participate and make a comment, go to Regulations.gov

    We all know there's a huge need for truck parking and we need to find solutions. Many times Federal Aid is not enough to sustain and commercialization for rest areas would help keep many of them open.

    Law dating back 50 yrs ago prohibit commercialization in rest areas. And many are against because they say it will cause unfair competition with existing businesses....

    The FHWA is interested in gathering public comments on how certain provisions of the current law should be interpreted and applied in consideration of advancements in technology and the interests of the States. Specifically, FHWA is interested in comments concerning the definition of vending machines. The FHWA is also interested in public input concerning the provision of law that allows the sale of items designed to promote tourism in the State, currently limited to books, DVDs, and other media.

    Allowable commercial activity in rest areas on the Interstate System includes:

    • Installation of commercial advertising and media displays, if such advertising and displays are exhibited solely within any facility constructed in the rest area and are not legible from the main traveled way;
    • sale of items designed to promote tourism in the State, limited to books, DVDs, and other media;
    • sale of tickets for events or attractions in the State of a historical or tourism-related nature;
    • distribution of travel-related information, including maps, travel booklets, and hotel coupon booklets;
    • installation and operation of lottery machines; and
    • installation and operation of vending machines which may only dispense such food, drink, and other articles as the State transportation department determines are appropriate and desirable and which are operated in accordance with the Randolph-Sheppard Act of 1936 found at 20 U.S.C. 107.

    The comment time will end tomorrow! Dec/27 at 11:59 pm ET

    Those wishing to participate and comment on this very important matter that affects us drivers can go now to Regulations.gov

    Click on Comment Now and give your valuable opinion, suggestion, idea... :biggrin_25519:
     
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  3. STexan

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    I'm not interested in how much "commercial activity" may or may not occur in rest areas. This does not seem to have anything to do with the creation of truck parking areas. If they are hoping or thinking that rest areas will/should somehow pay for themselves with lottery ticket sales, then we can forget about seeing anymore mega truck parking areas.

    Just allocate the ROW land, and develop and pave the site. Otherwise prepare to deal with more and more deaths due to trucks having to park in unsafe areas to remain compliant with federal regs. We/they don't need any ridiculous comment period to know what needs to be done.
     
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  4. drumtrucker

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    yeah, this does not seem to address, at least not in a direct way, the availability or lack thereof, of adequate parking for trucks.
     
  5. STexan

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    I wonder if Trump will allow some funding or funds matching of a hundred or so large truck parking areas across the nation in his massive "infrastructure stimulus" package that he wants? Oh, I forgot. Autonomous trucks are coming soon so we won't need them :biggrin_25523:
     
  6. RedForeman

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    I think this proposal is not permissive enough. If they want bring private enterprise in to develop and improve highway rest areas, they will have to offer valuable products and services to support a viable business model. That is, versus being limited to vending machines and tourism brochures.

    Note that the proposal isn't specific to commercial vehicle parking. In fact, I don't recall seeing a mention of it in the summary page. The purpose of the proposal is to improve facilities that are currently on the decline, at no or reduced cost to the government.

    If this idea becomes reality, I wouldn't expect it to magically transform our interstates to be flush with big truck parking lots. Probably something more like toll road service plazas that offer a great experience for automotive travelers, and happen to accommodate limited CMV parking because it was already there. It wouldn't be a stretch to expect that potential profit per square foot of parking is probably going to favor car traffic heavily.

    To be honest, government does such a bad job at anything, I'd view this proposal as an improvement even if a whole bunch of truck parking lots weren't paved as a result.
     
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  7. ZVar

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    Making the rest areas commercial won't help. Take a look at New York Toll Road as an example. All the plazas there are commercial, but very little truck parking. While Ohio shows that they can have truck parking, just making the rest areas commercial will not help. Heck, I can see it overall hurting truckers as they will take truck parking and turn it into 4 wheeler parking so that the restaurants can have more customers.
     
  8. Final Drive

    Final Drive Road Train Member

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    Park in a rest area in Ohio , only if you want to be bothered by a cop...so I never do..
     
  9. fargonaz

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    I support all the cheap ### shippers and receivers donating reasonable amounts of money to build the parking for the transportation they require. I'm all for that, if they want any more money out of me, they can kiss my ###. Oh ya, and the fing brokers can pony up too.
     
  10. NewbiusErectus

    NewbiusErectus Medium Load Member

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    If you make it into the rest stop, you're fine. You can kick back, relax and watch someone else get dragged off the freeway and DOT'd

    It's that 2-3 mile stretch prior to the rest stops you need to avoid. Well, that stretch and pretty much everywhere else. But the rest stops are fine, you just need to helicopter in, or go in thru the woods.
     
  11. tracyq144

    tracyq144 Heavy Load Member

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    Commercialized rest areas sound like truckstops to me. Keep'm like they are right now, I think the lack of commercial development assures that that they fill up after the truckstops, giving one more option to find a place to sleep, which is what I am looking for, if I want to shower, eat, or play the pinball, I can do it at other times than early, late evening.

    Just my $00.02.
     
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