So called owner/operators

Discussion in 'Car Hauler and Auto Carrier Trucking Forum' started by Mr&MrsPete, Mar 26, 2016.

  1. Terry270

    Terry270 Road Train Member

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    No I mean literally these people are thinking that $3/mi from Chicago to Dallas is a good rate. Not even counting that you're probably taking even worse leaving (I would roll empty or a few singles paying $1/mi ea before I took cheap stinger loads).

    Banker what you are doing is similar to me. 450ish mi round trips paying no less than $3/mi all miles. And Im not even excited about that but I do it to keep a high volume customer happy. Much happier when I can get a load going near his pickup but that doesn't always happen. Hell this past year it was happening less and less.
     
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  3. Mr&MrsPete

    Mr&MrsPete Medium Load Member

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    That's the same thing we are doing. 180 miles is the furthest we go. Loads pay $1000 - $1200
     
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  4. diesel engine

    diesel engine Light Load Member

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    If some loads have to go that is forced dispatch.
    In that case all owner operators must be classified as employees.
    you just highlighted a serious problem in the industry, owner operators are treated like employees, they are brainwashed and then you are surprised they asking for repair bill to be covered.
     
  5. diesel engine

    diesel engine Light Load Member

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    Add a sentence to the lease agreement saying that contractor must take good and bad, do it, just do it and let us know.
    But of course you wont because you are afraid of doing so
     
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    diesel engine Light Load Member

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    is it really difficult to understand??
    peoples mind is so much upside down they are willing to take a load with no profit
     
  7. diesel engine

    diesel engine Light Load Member

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    so you pay them extra money and they still are giving you loads with little to no profit left to the owner?
    Are you serious
     
  8. SLANT6

    SLANT6 Road Train Member

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    Any O/O that LEASES on to a Carrier needs to understand that ALL the vehicles on the ground HAVE to go. Don't like it? Want to pick out the good and leave the ####? Then DON'T lease on! Go do all the work to get your own. Then you have the right to refuse. Tell that to whomever you got the traffic from. If you won't haul all given, what do they need you for.
     
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  9. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    No, you need to understand that it is MY truck, I am the one paying the expenses for the operation of the truck, and it is MY call whether or not that truck rolls. If YOU want MY truck to haul a load, YOU need to make sure YOU bid that load high enough so that it is profitable for me to haul that load in MY truck. Do you expect a paycheck for the time you put in? Well so do I. If "break-even" is the best you have to offer, I'm better off at the end of the day sitting at home on the couch, because I won't wear out my equipment and nothing will break if I'm not using it. If something WERE to break while running your break-even freight, now I'm operating at a significant loss. The risks outweigh the rewards every time when there are no rewards.

    You want me to run your freight? Show me the money. I don't have 100 other trucks making up for a bad run here or there. I have 1. I don't work for free, so if the run you offer me isn't profitable you have 2 options: 1) pay more so that the run becomes profitable; or 2) find another truck to haul it. Those are your only options, because as I stated, I won't even turn the key if the day's run is break-even at best.
     
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    diesel engine Light Load Member

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    B u ll s Hit
    if they need to go buy couple trucks, put employees behind the wheel and get rid of the "car that need to go"
     
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  11. Terry270

    Terry270 Road Train Member

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    You guys are both correct, to an extent. If I was leased to a good carrier and they took good care of me, I would not mind running a less than desirable load every now and then. But try to put a load on me paying average rate into an area with zero freight leaving? No way Jose. That run needs to get absorbed by a company truck that has possession of that multi million dollar contract.
     
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