Thoughts on efficiency

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  1. Big_Red

    Big_Red Medium Load Member

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    I never thought about that...does sound stressful though.
     
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  3. rank

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    Not sure if you've pulled over width on your flat or not so here's my $.02

    1. Some of those routes...especially PA, can be a *****. Get a GOOD map and make sure you find where SR 3001 is for example. Often the routes on the permit aren't named the same in Rand McNally, or on your GPS. Sometimes Google maps will have them named correctly but the best I've found is the regional paper maps for Pennsylvania....i.e. county maps.

    2. Check the permit to see if they're routing you on county roads. If they are, your permit might not be valid on that road and sometimes the DOT like to set up in the vicinity. NY likes to do this. Been there done that. Got pulled over by a trooper in ON once just to make sure I had permits. I handed him the ON permit. He looked it over and saw that I was routed on two county roads. Then he asked to see my county permits. I had them of course, but many would have over looked it.
     
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  4. Big_Red

    Big_Red Medium Load Member

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    Rank i know exactly what you mean. That's the issue I had in Philadelphia. I had the route all figured out..as you said it required use of the atlas to translate. There was was another truck that decided to tag along. After watching for a while I realized he was sort of "out of it". The type of guy who can't be still... real jittery... if you catch my drift. I had to tell him he needed flags...banner...etc. anyway since I had to roll the next morning due to curfew I couldn't shake the guy.

    So I start making my way out of town with these over width crates and ol jitter bug disappears a while then catches up. Maybe 2 minutes later cops come chasing us down and stop us. This LEO is loosin it..cussin and all. Where's your f'in permit get out of the truck right now!

    DOT shows up
    Leo:eek:k so you've got your state permit where's your city permit???

    Me: My what? I didn't know I needed one nobody informed me. I don't order permits. Yes I've read all the instructions even got the extra form we have to pull up and download and print.

    Leo goes to the other guy and comes back
    Leo: your trucks gettin impounded and your coming to the courthouse. You guys think you're slick only buying the permit for one truck and didn't even bother to atleast get the city permit. Your pal here doesn't have his permits...no insurance...and his log book says he's in Texas. No wonder he clipped a car

    Me: WHOOOOAAAA WAIT A MINUTE...I don't know him he's not tied to this company what so ever. Here's my log book..here's my truck book. I have no problem takin the lumps for the city permit but it makes sense to me that if dispatch told them we are leaving from Philadelphia and they see we've never been here they could've said something.

    So after everybody calmed down some the officer read the permit word for word and seen himself how as the driver and never haveing been there I could have made the mistake.
    (Permit said must notify city of Philadelphia 24 hours prior to the move...doesn't state a permit is needed).

    He let us order the permit right there on the spot and print it out. The next day my police escort shows up and we get going only to find out the city route had us taking a route that was closed for construction. We bootlegged our way out and as I lit that first cigar I thought

    What a #### show. Always ask about the city permit lol
     
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    As most know, I am based in Texas & do 80% of my running here. As such I get to deal with their ridiculous routing, always need to add 10-20% minimum to the miles on your quote, even if it's just going around the corner.

    Other than the extra miles, the only thing I have had to deal with them on has been routing for height. Twice they have tried to route me under a bridge that was too low. Once on 77 under the RR trestle just north of Refugio, TX, the other time was on Loop 1604 around San Antonio, TX.

    Extra height always adds extra stress for me. Every tree limb, every power line, every bridge, every street light looks too low.

    I still believe they are sitting around smoking dope & throw darts at a map to route you.

    As for the OP, this should be your unbendable mantra to the boss, the shipper & the receiver, "the load will get there when it gets there, not a second before". That doesn't mean not to give them an ETA & try to be there then, but things will happen that will slow you down & the ETA is just that, an "Estimated" Time of Arrival.
     
  8. Big_Red

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    Seeing that DOT routing isn't bullet proof I want to ask y'all if there's a way to get listed bridge heights for city streets? The atlas only gives you interstates/highways/ and some county roads. But it won't tell you if the adams ave bridge is too low or weight restricted.
     
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    If you find it, please share it...
    Cause I haven't
     
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    TripleSix God of Roads

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    See this, Red? There's a certain set of rules for OSOW, okay? You got that. Cool! There's a completely different set of rules when a load crosses over into SUPERLOAD territory. With your setup, the 7 axle, odds are, the only way you're going to hit that is overheight. That can easily turn into a nightmare. And that's with you, the driver, doing everything right.

    Someone in some office somewhere forgets to cross a T or dot an I, and suddenly, you the driver get caught in the middle of something where groups of people who speak in lawyerspeak have to be coaxed into communicating with each other for weeks or months on end...with you sitting and waiting.

    You did your homework, were on route, but get somewheres that your superload doesn't fit, and suddenly, you're stuck there waiting for a month until the governor has absolutely nothing to do, to make a decision.

    You wind up sitting in a dirt lot for so long that you know everyone in town by name. @Rontonio, tell him about your adventures in Ohio.
     
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