Impossible to find air leak

Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by Ozdriver, Feb 8, 2017.

  1. Klleetrucking

    Klleetrucking Medium Load Member

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    Whatever you find out PLEASE keep us posted with the details.
    Hope you find it.
     
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  3. Ozdriver

    Ozdriver Heavy Load Member

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    Yep, done that. Squirted Windex around the fittings.
     
  4. Ozdriver

    Ozdriver Heavy Load Member

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    I'Ve given up on it for a while, I'm doing other stuff. I'll have another go Monday.
     
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  5. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    I meant the actual gauge itself, not just the fittings on the back.

    This one's a real head scratcher. How did you isolate the compressor? At the compressor or the wet tank? I've been told that the braided hose off the compressor can let air escape through the braids over its whole length as it gets up there in age.
     
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  6. Ozdriver

    Ozdriver Heavy Load Member

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    I removed the hose and plugged the wet tank with a 3/8" blank plug. That's what I've been doing, removing various hoses like the transmission air supply hose and blanking the ports on the air tanks. I've been charging the wet tank with the shop compressor.
    I've had air hoses leaking internally, I had the Horton hose do that a few years ago. But I isolated the Horton so it isn't that.
    There's a few more things I'll be looking at but I've given up for the time being. It's a pretty bad leak though, that's what's weird about it I can't find it.
     
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  7. GrapeApe

    GrapeApe Road Train Member

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    With both tanks draining, I think that you would have either the primary or secondary check valve bad. There are very few things that could drain both. Did you block off the gladhands to be sure that the trailer valve is not bypassing, that has the 2 way check that could drain both tanks. Foot valve has both sides going to it, but should be separated. What else could drain both?

    At this point I think I'd just change the check valves to be sure. It wont fix your leak, but if one is bad, it will at least hold air in 1 tank and eliminate one or the other so you can narrow your search to 1 side.

    The only other thing I can think of that hasn't been mentioned is drive it into a lake and find where the bubbles are coming from.
     
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  8. bigguns

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    This is extreme but I don't know as it will take more time than you have already spent. Remove every air line from every tank. Plug every port except one and put an air chuck in it. Charge each tank individually. Be sure that none of the plugs you put in each port is leaking. Check that the tank holds air. Then drain it, install one line, recharge and check for air loss. You could work back and forth between two tanks. While waiting to see if one loses air work on draining and installing a line in another tank and charging it. I would think that eventually you would install a line and that leads somewhere and won't hold air. Liquid dish washing detergent mixed with water will hang to whatever it is sprayed onto longer than windex. Or buy a commercial leak detection solution. I thought I heard of some real head scratchers but this looks like an all time record holder.
     
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  9. Cat sdp

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    Just saw on the news.. big heat wave and lots of brush fires down under........

    Be save down there Ozdriver.
     
  10. Superhauler

    Superhauler TEACHER OF MEN

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    Does your truck have the air operated windows ? I remember some of those ole 100s having those.
     
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  11. Burdisco

    Burdisco Light Load Member

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    Hello,
    Have you checked the base/pedestal of the air bags? I have been having a nightmare of a time chasing air leaks. Air was leaking at the quick connect that supplies the bags. that was found by shaking the lines. Air was also leaking at the bags but only found by changing two of them one at a time. Each time the leak lessened. It turned out the air was leaking at the base of the bags and only showed when submerged in a tyre tank.
     
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